The great failure of marriage even in the highest echelons of the Torah community is because people don't know the halacha, the Torah laws, of marriage, divorce, Family and raising children. Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn publishes books, publications, and material on blog and Google with approbations from the greatest rabbis such as the Gaonim Reb Moshe Feinstein, Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashev and other major gedolim.
Sunday, November 8, 2015
Protest Against Heter of Tamar by Geonim Rav Shlomo Miller, Rav Eli Ber Wachtfogel, Rav Moshe Green, Rav Yechiel Tauber
May Tamar Remarry Her First Husband? A Message for Rabbis
Greenblatt and Kaminetsky
By Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn/845-578-1917/eidensohnd@gmail.com 8/11/2015
My brother’s daattorah.blogspot.com revealed letters
from Senior Rabbis Moshe Shternbuch, Aharon Feldman and Leibish Landesman opposing
Rabbi Greenblatt’s marrying Tamir Epstein Friedman to a strange man while she
was still married to Aharon Friedman. The Senior rabbis ruled that her children from the second man would
be mamzerim. I surely agree with this and have been saying this for weeks, even
though until now I was the only one saying it publicly on my blog torahhalacha.blogspot.com
in America and my brother the only one saying it publicly in Israel . I will
also mention that my brother 1) guessed what the reasoning of Rabbi Greenblatt
was before any of the facts dribbled out and 2) showed that the reasoning has
nothing to do with halacha. And finally he received proofs that he was right on
both points.
As I publish this post on my blog and send it to my
mailing list I am aware that soon new voices will be added to the above list of
Senior rabbis who disagree with Rabbi Greenblatt. At that point, people will undoubtedly realize
that Tamar Epstein Freidman married out of wedlock and that her children will
be mamzerim from the second husband.
This has led to a question: The Rashbo in 1189 says
that if a Beth Din erred and told a married woman that she may remarry without
a GET, she may return to her first husband because she is ONUSE, a forced
person, and did not sin willingly. If so, perhaps in Tamar’s case she is also
to be considered ONUSE and technically would be permitted to return to her
husband Aharon. Tamar was told by Rabbis
Greenblatt and Kaminetsky that she could remarry without a GET. Is this the
same as the Beth Din in the Rashbo’s case that permitted the woman to remarry?
I responded as follows: First of all, the situation
with Tamar was without a Beth Din. No Beth Din received the couple, in this
case, Aharon and Tamar, to hear both of them out and decide whether a GET was
needed. A Beth Din must hear both sides equally, as stated in Choshen Mishpot
17:1,7. It is inferred from a posuk in the Torah בצדק תשפוט
עמיתך in Rambam Sanhedrin
21:1. Radvaz there brings a Sifro that it is a lav לא תלך
רגיל בעמך. Also, see Rambam רמב"ם סנהדרין כ' יב' כל המטה משפט אחד מישראל עובר בלאו אחד
שנאמר לא תעשו עול כמשפט עכ"ל
Did Rabbi Greenblatt have three people who listened
to Aharon and Tamar? And when he paskened without proper Beth Din proceedings,
did he not violate the Torah? Rambam says that a Beth Din that does not follow
proper procedure by treating both sides equally has violated a mitsvas Eseh בצדק תשפוט עמיתך
San21:1. But Rambam says a bit earlier there (20:12) that the sin is worse than
that, not an ESEH but a LAV - כל המטה
משפט אחד מישראל עובר בלאו אחד שנאמר לא תעשו עול במשפט. The solution to this contradiction is that if the Beth Din did
not damage anyone but simply did not follow proper Beth Din proceedings, it
sins only with an ESEH, a positive command. But if it sins by damaging somebody,
it sins with a negative command a LAV which is worse. Obviously, taking somebody’s wife away without
proper judicial procedures is the greatest twisting of justice and Rabbi
Greenblatt sinned with the positive and negative command of a rabbi who judges
people and twists the judgment. He also caused damage to Tamar in the worst way
of turning her into an adulteress and her new children to be mamzerim.
More to the point: Did Rabbi Greenblatt even talk to
Aharon? Did he talk to Tamar himself or did he rely on others who were clearly
on the side of Tamar and accept their opinions? This is not an act of a Beth
Din. It is not even the act of a single Rov. It is the act of a Rov who heard
one side, believed in them, and destroyed the life of a woman Tamar, who is now
consigned to the status of adulteress, and the present child of Tamar who will grow up with a
mother who is a sinner, and a public
sinner at that. Because this story will be public knowledge. And if Tamar has a child from the second husband, it
will be a mamzer. And if Rabbi Greenblatt disagrees, ask him if he will marry
his children to the mamzer. If he says he will marry them he is a liar or a
meshugeneh and maybe both.
Thus, this miscarriage of justice that Rabbi
Greenblatt performed is not an act of a Beth Din, it is not the act of a single
judge, because it violates the entire system of justice that requires equality
between the two sides. It is Rabbi Greenblatt’s invention and reliance on
others because he was too lazy to check things out himself. I called up Rabbi
Greenblatt and told him that he married off a married woman. He told me that
Gedolim approved of what he did. I told him that even Gedolim cannot violate
the Torah and quoted a Chazon Ish and he hung up on me. Now, it is interesting just who these Gedolim
were. Rabbi Shalom Kaminetsky? Because Rabbi Shmuel Kaminetsky signed a letter
before Tamar married that he did not support her remarrying without a GET. I know nobody who considers Rabbi Shalom
Kaminetsky a posek.
So who is the Gadol that Rabbi Greenblatt trusted?
But let us leave this sordid mess of Rabbi Greenblatt
behind and return to the Rashbo that is the source of the Ramo in EH 17:58. A
Beth Din tells a woman to remarry because it made a mistake, the woman is
considered ONUS or a forced person and is not a sinner so she may return to her
first husband. The Rashbo is talking about a case where a woman is engaged to a man. The man came to the
home of the woman and asked the father to let the woman he wants to marry come
to the table with everyone else. The father said he would not allow her to come
to the table with everyone else until the husband gave her a ring which is known in that
community as an act of marriage, a Kiddushin. The husband gave the ring in
front of many people who were in the room. Afterwards the woman married
somebody else and had children from him. The first man who gave her the ring
appeared. He brought proof that he gave her a ring and there were witnesses who
saw it. He established that she was married to him when she married the second
man and the children of the second man would be mamzerim. The Rashbo was asked
about this.
The Rashbo says that the rule in this is that if the
woman goes to a Beth Din that clearly establishes to her that she is permitted
to remarry, she is ANUSO and may return to her first husband. But if it is a situation where she did not have a
clear statement that the Torah permitted her to remarry, and she did not check
out things properly, her children are mamzerim.
When a senior dayan
heard Tamar Epstein Freidman claiming that she did not need a GET and
planned to marry another man not her husband, he went to Israel and asked the
shaalo in a major Beth Din. The Beth Din
stated clearly that a GET was required. Subsequently, the Rosh Beth Din wrote
up his opinion and it will be printed very soon as I understand. When Dayanim in Israel heard that an American
rabbi was about to remarry a woman without a GET, they came to our American
Senior Dayan and asked him how such a thing could be? The senior Dayan came
back to America and informed the family that many rabbis disagree with those
who permit her to remarry. Now, when the
family and the Tamar heard this, were they ANUS to listen to Rabbi Greenblatt,
who never saw Aharon, never spoke to him, and maybe never talked to Tamar until
he married her to the stranger? Of course, Tamar knew clearly that the issue was one where prominent
rabbis disagreed with Rabbi Greenblatt. Therefore, she was not ANUSE to follow
Rabbi Greenblatt. Again, the senior
Dayan told me that he personally informed Tamar and her family of the great
opposition of rabbis to what they were doing.
Therefore, Tamar is not Anuse and she must leave her
husband and her “new” husband, and the child from the new husband is a mamzer.
Now I turn to the prominent rabbis who permitted
Tamar to do this, Rabbis Greenblatt, Shmuel and Shalom Kaminetsky: Please
realize that the whole world is up in arms against you. I get phone calls from
people who want to publicly protest your taking a woman who has no father and
is a yesoma and help her become an adulteress and have mamzerim for children.
SHAME ON YOU. As I send these words out on my mailing list and blog, I know
that in a few days, other prominent rabbis will be signing and sending their
protests at what you did. If you admit your error, and get Tamar to leave her
new “husband” and get a GET from her real husband, people will say that this
shows the high quality of rabbis who admitted a terrible mistake. But if you
continue to back her living in sin, the anger at you will grow. I hope you will
think a bit about what I am saying. If there is anything I can do to help you
in this matter, please contact me at Dovid Eidensohn 845-578-1917/eidensohnd@gmail.com
. Until I hear what I want to hear from you, I will continue to blast you again
and again, and if a child is born to Tamar, I will publicize that it is a mamzer.
I hope and pray that in the merit of ninety years of
serving the Torah you will not end your lives with this growing storm. Think
of your Yeshiva and your vast community
of those who are inspired by you.
Please. Nobody has come forward to agree with Rabbi Greenblatt, but I know of many rabbis who have stated
that he is completely wrong.
I cannot imagine how the Philly Yeshiva will stand
the growing fury of an entire Orthodox community even the Modern Orthodox other
than a few known Torah inventors who are not prominent except for their
inventions.
Make up your mind, now, because time is running out.
Shalom,
Dovid Eidensohn
Tuesday, November 3, 2015
Solutions For Frogs
Without Legs
By Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn/845-578-1917/eidensohnd@gmail.com
What is the problem of Frogs
Without Legs? And what Solutions are there? Men with broken marriages come to
me to talk about their situation. Usually they have a lot to say: the Beth Din,
the Courts, this one that one was wrong, etc. Then I respond, “You are a frog
without legs. A frog can swim, jump and croak. Without legs it cannot swim and
jump. It can just croak. And that is exactly what so many men with broken
marriages do. They croak, talk, talk, talk, but do nothing that can help their
situation.”
What is the solution for the
frogs? I urge them to emulate the ladies. It wasn’t so long ago that ladies
were utterly denigrated and helpless. But they organized; they got media
backing, formed groups to fight for their rights, and raised huge sums of
money. Now they are much stronger than men. Why? Because men don’t like to
organize to fight women, for whatever reason. And a lone man against an army of
women is helpless.
Not long ago the New York Times
featured a front page story that tells it all. President Obama threatened that
he would withhold funding from Harvard if it did not accept complaints by women
against men without any proof, even though complaints by men against women
required proof. Forty law professors from Harvard then signed a complaint that
if men cannot complain against women without proof, but women can complain
about men without proof, there is an unconstitutional gender bias favoring
women. This is one of the small attempts by men in America, not the religious
men, to assert their rights in a world that backs ladies in an unconstitutional
way. But religious men don’t assert themselves.
They are frogs without legs. Thus, even though secular men are starting to
fight back against unconstitutional gender bias, religious men lag behind, and
suffer terribly.
At this point, the world is so
bias towards women that even rabbis and Beth Din force husbands to give a GET
simply because the wife wants out. This is absolutely wrong. If a man marries a
sister, we beat him to force a GET. If he is unable to satisfy his wife as he
is not a man, the Talmud requires a GET but no coercion is permitted other than
to tell the husband the the Talmud requires a GET and to refuse makes him a
wicked person. But if a woman demands a GET because she despises the husband,
no coercion is permitted. Furthermore, a prenup that allows the woman to force
a GET whenever she pleases is a violation of a Mishneh in Nedorim 90 that when
a woman has the power to force a GET she will be free to marry anyone she wants
based on her lies so we don’t allow her to have these powers.
We must keep in mind that this means that based upon
the woman’s demands there is no mitzvah. But if the husband is not living with
a wife in a functioning marriage, and he may have evil thoughts, or if he has
not had a boy and a girl and has to fulfill the mitzvah and this wife refuses
to be with him, or even if he has had a boy and a girl but has a mitzvah to
increase his family, these mitsvose surely stay with the husband. On the other
hand, if the husband fears that if he gives a GET the wife will destroy his
relationship with the children or she will take him to a civil court and
destroy him financially, perhaps a mitzvah to do a positive command does not
force him to endanger his children or himself, and we will not discuss this
further now.
By the laws of the Torah, a woman
who confesses to her husband that she slept with another man intentionally gets
a divorce from her husband because we believe her and she is forbidden to her
husband. But since this would empower all women to force a GET and walk out on
their husbands and maybe they leave because they just like another man, the
rabbis took away her power to confess and get a GET. Now, when she tells her
husband she slept with another man we don’t believe her but she must bring
proof that she slept with the other man. This is an incredible thing, but it
shows who important it is for a woman not to have the power to just force the
husband to give her a GET. Some bring proof from a Nachalas Shiva Simon 9 that
this is permitted. But the Nachalas Shiva is talking about a different case,
when the husband tortured the wife and she demanded a Din Torah, and meanwhile
she fled the house. The husband must give her ten gold coins to pay for her
food to tide her over away from his house until the husband attends the Beth
Din and presumably is corrected by the rabbis regarding his behavior.
Furthermore, as long as she is out of the house and the conflict continues he
must continue to pay her a monthly ten coins. When the Beth Din has instructed
the husband to cease and desist with the evil things he does to his wife, then
the couple goes on in a marriage without his tortures. If the husband continues
to torment his wife the Beth Din will figure out what to do. But a prenup
permits the woman to drain the husband financially until he gives her a full
GET without him doing anything wrong. Anytime she finds a nicer man to marry
she can force him to divorce her. This is forbidden as we see in the above
Mishneh in Nedrom 90b.
All of this is not the fault of
the ladies. There is a general feeling, even among rabbis, that women must be
supported in their demand for a GET. This is not true. Not only does a husband
not have an obligation to divorce his wife when she demands a GET, but the
poskim say that the husband has no mitzvah to do so. (See Rashbo VII:414 quoted
by Radvaz II Section IV:118 that humiliating a husband to pressure for a GET is
forbidden even if the husband is unable
to be a man and is commanded by the Talmud to give a GET. But a husband who is
normal and can have children may not be pressured at all see Rashbo VII:414 and
Shulchan Aruch Even Hoezer 77 paragraphs 2 and 3 and all commentators there,
Shulchan Aruch, Ramo, Gro, Chelkas Mechokake and Beis Shmuel agree that a
husband is not coerced to divorce when the wife says he disgusts her and she wants
a GET. HaGaon Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashev says the husband has no mitzvah to give
a GET see his sources Kovets Teshuvose 174:1[i])
The problem is something else.
Women are often moved to break with their husbands because other ladies,
relatives, friends, or “professional agitators” urge them on. All of these feel
that it is a great mitzvah to destroy the husband. The woman who is scared and
unsure what to do is easily convinced by these people to destroy her husband,
even if she is a true believer in the laws of loshon hora and stealing.
A husband contacted me who was
being destroyed by his local Beth Din that forbade him to visit his children
and got him fired from several jobs because he did not obey them and give his
wife a GET. Once a Beth Din rules that a husband must give a GET the next step
is either he gives it or is destroyed. But this time he came to somebody who
could help him.
I wrote a public blog to answer
this Beth Din that their attack on the husband was against the Torah. The
Chazon Ish says that if a husband is not one of those who must give a GET and a
Beth Din said he must give a GET, and the husband obeys, the GET is invalid for
two reasons, even by Torah not just rabbinical standards. (EH Gittin 99:2) That
produced a new attitude and one rabbi who was very aggressive against husbands
began to write to me with very proper remarks. He just never knew the laws of
marriage, because very few rabbis know them. Even major rabbis don’t know them.
Frogs of the World! Unite! Cast off your chains! Call me. Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn/845-578-1917/eidensohnd@gmail.com
Monday, November 2, 2015
Failures During "Footsteps of Moshiach"
by Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn
The Talmud (Sota 49) tells that the period before the arrival of Moshiach known
as Footsteps of the Moshiach will feature destruction of the family. We see
destruction of the family, divorces and broken children, but we don’t see Moshiach
yet. But we recall the statement of the Talmud that in such a terrible period
“We have nobody to rely on other than
our Father in Heaven.” If we turn to Him and get to work to solve things, we
may get somewhere. Despair is not the solution.
During the First World War there was mighty suffering in Europe. The
Chofetz Chaim, the saint of the generation would preach, “A new war will come about that will make
this look like childs play. “ We know now he was talking about the Second World
War. But that was not the end. Today we are enduring the part of suffering
taught in the Talmud, the destruction of family. We suffer from divorces and
broken children. We have gender wars.
Going back about five hundred years, the great rabbis announced the beginning
of the pre-Messianic Era, also known as the period of Footsteps of the Moshiach.
This does not mean that Moshiach came five hundred years ago. It means that the
world is preparing for the End of Days and the Messianic Era, with its
tribulations and testing.
The gender war did not begin now. It began at creation. And the first one
to suffer from it was G-d. In an incredible story in the Talmud (Chulin 60b) ,
the female Moon and the male Sun were equally bright. The Moon protested to G-d
that “two kings cannot share the same crown.” She wanted to be the great light
and she wanted the sun to be diminished. G-d refused and the Moon argued and
argued. Finally G-d said to the Moon: “Go and diminish yourself.” The Moon
replied, “Because I say something proper I must diminish myself?” G-d said, “I
failed to satisfy the Moon. Therefore bring for Me a sacrifice on the New
Moon.” What does this mean?
The world was created with two forces, Justice and Mercy. The righteous
live with the very strict rules of Justice and are punished for sinning in this
world. Other people are allowed to sin and nobody bothers them. But in the
other world, only the righteous will be honored and others will be punished.
The Moon protested that she, the female, is the superior force of justice, and
the sun was the inferior level of kindness. If the sun was equal to the moon, it
meant that sinners and righteous people were equal. The Moon wanted the world
to be for righteous people. She wanted sinners to be punished and the world to
be cleansed constantly of evil. This would be a glory for the Torah. But G-d
said He did not want a world of perfect people, but wanted penitence (Avoda
Zora 4b). Thus King David sinned and
repented and was accepted. And the Jews at Sinai sinned with the Golden Calf
and then repented and were accepted. But the Moon had a point that all of this
sinning was a disgrace for G-d and holiness. So G-d brought a sacrifice on the
New Moon, acknowledging the decline of the world without the Moon in charge
with justice.
I spoke to some young women with children who are going through divorces.
I explained that they should not feel guilty. These are living during the
Footsteps of Moshiach with its terrors. And the Talmud concludes its comments
about the Footsteps with the statement, “And we have nobody to turn to other
than our Father in Heaven.” This means, say the rabbis, that even in such a
hopeless time, we can turn to G-d and find solutions, if we are ready to pursue
them properly.
The two ladies were comforted, at least somewhat. Our times are terrible
tribulations. But despair is not the proper or only response.
We have posted many articles about the problems of our times. The most
recent scandal was the woman who remarried without a GET, based upon the
encouragement and participation of two of the major rabbis in America, Rabbis
Kaminetsky and Greenblatt. The
remarriage was a terrible sin and children from the second man will be
mamzerim. And the great silence that
greeted this outrage is in itself a greater outrage than the sin itself. Even
if eventually some people will present some public opposition, it will come
weeks after the event, much too late and too insignificant.
The structure of Torah is damaged, and is part of the reason we have so
many divorces and broken families. Until we realize that we have no proper
leadership in America, and that the leadership itself is doing things that may be damaging, such as
the rabbis of prominent positions who support gay rights and prominent gays for
public office, we will not be able to escape from the darkness.
At this point, we have to look at the whole structure, and identify the
problems. Those who want to stay with the mud, will stay with it, and sink in
further. And others will escape it, if they are ready to accept the true Torah
position that is now badly eroded.
We hope to elaborate on these matters in future posts.
Wednesday, October 28, 2015
Tamar
Epstein Friedman Remarries – What is the Public Reaction?
By Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn
Tamar Epstein Friedman, with the encouragement of the Rabbis Kaminetsky
in Philadelphia, was remarried by Rabbi Notto Greenblatt of Memphis, Tennessee,
even though she was still married to Aharon Friedman. I wrote
a post called “Rabbi Greenblatt Makes Mamzerim.” Other than that and my
brother’s very popular Israeli blog that was filled with this, silence. But the silence was misleading. People were
reading my blog and my brother’s blog. They were reading the flyers I gave out.
And they were getting very angry. As the street stiffened in its objection to
this, the rabbis who struggled to find the facts had an easier time. Finally,
there was a crack here and a crack there, and then, some big cracks. People now
know basically what happened, and they have proof of the major points.
When the community got to work to fight this and find the facts, every
shade of Orthodoxy was represented. Those
who worked on this did not go around bragging or making statements. So people
could mistake the silence for disinterest. Nobody is rushing . They want to make sure that nobody ever tries
this again.
The version of the story accepted by people I have spoken to is as follows: Rabbi
Greenblatt was told by Rabbi Shalom Kaminetsky that Aharon Friedman had an
incurable mental illness that made him completely unable to satisfy a wife. Out
of respect for Rabbi Shmuel Kaminetsky, Rabbi Greenblatt completely accepted
the story, and performed the marriage. Previously Rabbi Shmuel Kaminetsky
signed a paper forced on him by two major rabbis that he no longer encouraged
Tamar to remarry. But somehow she remarried anyway.
Here I want to talk about three people or groups who fought this. One is
me. I fought immediately not because I knew why Rabbi Greenblatt did what he
did, but I fought because I know that in halacha there is no possible
permission for such a thing, as I describe in detail on my blog
torahhalacha.blogspot.com many times. See later here. Next is my brother Rabbi
Daniel Eidensohn. My brother has an ability foreign to me. He does incredible
things that nobody understands until finally everybody accepts it. His blog
exploded after the marriage with ideas how to annul the marriage which turned
out to be right on target. And he immediately showed why those ideas, getting
therapists or psychiatrists to declare somebody with a mental illness and thus
claim that the marriage is negated, has no place in the Torah.
The Gaon Rav Henkin states clearly that in the past centuries nobody ever
negated a marriage because of some defect of the husband. This is also the
opinion of the Nodah Biyehuda II:80, Bais HaLevi, and Kovneh Rov. See also
gemora Kesubose 72,73 and Even Hoezer 38,39 and 117. Nowhere does it say that
if a woman has a husband with a blemish or problems that the marriage can be
cancelled. The Gaon Reb Moshe Feinstein permits this but only on the condition
that the husband is truly horrendous such as a homosexual, and that it is
absolutely impossible to get a GET. In the case of Tamar Epstein Friedman, the
husband wanted to give a GET. But he wanted an improvement in visitation rights
regarding the daughter. According to Reb Moshe, there could be no negation of
the marriage in these circumstances. Thus, Rabbi Greenblatt performed a
marriage for a married woman that is forbidden by all Torah authorities, the
gemora and Shulchan Aruch. So he and Rabbi Kaminetskys are reshoim.
The senior Gaon Rav Nissim Karelitz of Bnei Braq said clearly that Tamar
could only marry if she had a GET. Rav
Suriel Rosenberg, the Rosh Beth Din of Rav Karelitz, was there when Rav
Karelitz said she had to have a GET. He subsequently wrote in strong support of
what Rav Karelitz said. Rav Rosenberg is considered one of the major poskim in
our generation. The Beth Din of Baltimore that dealt with the case until Tamar
ran away to Philadelphia said clearly that there was no possibility to negate
the marriage because of any fault of Aharon Friedman, and that any children
born from Tamar from her new marriage would be mamzerim.
Let’s consider the husband, Aharon Friedman. Rabbi Greenblatt declares
that his wife is free to remarry without a GET. And how is this possible? Only because
Aharon has such a terrible mental illness that it can’t be cured and no woman
can be married to him. Rabbi Greenblatt, besides making mamzerim of Tamar’s new
children, makes a mental case out of the husband Aharon. And guess what: when Rabbi Greenblatt believes the
Kaminetskys and declares Tamar to be free to marry without a GET, he has turned
her into a sinning adulteress. And when he declared that Aharon was mentally
insane and unable to be a husband, he destroyed his name and future to remarry. And both things Rabbi Greenblatt
achieved, the destruction of Tamar and her new children, and the destruction of
Aharon, are completely mistaken and have no place in the Torah, and no place in
truth. Aharon who has for years
maintained a high position in Congress as an attorney, is not mentally ill.
Furthermore, during the years that Aharon and Tamar went to Beth Din and courts
about their marriage, Tamar never successfully argued that Aharon had any
mental problems. The Baltimore Beth Din knows exactly what Tamar did say about
Aharon and why she wanted a GET. Therefore the head of the Baltimore Beth Din
told me that there is no hint at all from his experience with Tamar’s claims
that she felt that Aharon was mentally incapable of being a husband. He further
told me that if she has a child it will be a mamzer. So much for the lies of
the Kaminetskys.
Rabbi Shalom Kaminetsky had a married woman remarry without a GET for
invalid reasons. He did a terrible sin to teach the wife to ignore her marriage
and remarry without a GET. He did a terrible sin to teach a woman to remarry
and have mamzerim for children. He did a terrible sin to make up lies about the
husband Aharon. For each of these aveirose, bain odom lichaveru, Yom Kippur
does not atone, only the forgiveness of the injured person. Can the baby mamzer really forgive? Can anyone really
forgive? If Shalom Kaminetsky was the main power in this hideous sinning, he is
a rosho and can not be a Rosh Yeshiva. Do not send your child to Philadelphia
Yeshiva. It is forbidden to learn Torah from someone like that.
I called up Rabbi Greenblatt and
told him that he married off a married woman. He told me that Gedolim permitted
this and anyone who disagrees has chutzpah. I told him a Chazon Ish and he hung
up on me.
Just as it is a mitzvah to proclaim the evil in Shalom Kaminetsky and the
terrible mistakes of Rabbis Greenblatt and Shmuel Kaminesty, so it is a mitzvah to proclaim the
suffering of Aharon. He has been demonized in Washington, DC so that no shull
will invite him to doven there. He has been humiliated by the cursed
organization of mamzer producers ORA, sponsored by Rabbi Herschel Schachter and
recommended highly by Rabbi Moshe Heinemann.
This despite the Rashbo in VII:414 that forbids humiliation even for a
husband commanded by the Talmud to give a GET because he cannot be a man.
Certainly a man who has a child is not to be humiliated. The pressures of humiliation are in the words of Rabbeinu Yona
“humiliation is worse than death,” a
great pressure that makes a GET invalid.
We have a world where some rabbis who get themselves a name do what they
want. This is the tragedy brought about
by Rabbis Greenblatt and Kaminetsky.
In the coming generation, any woman who received a GET from Rabbi
Greenblatt may be suspected of having an invalid GET. Any woman who was freed
from her marriage because ORA or others humiliated the husband is also a
suspected person and needs a proper Beth Din to determine if she may remarry. The
anger is building against rabbis who think they are “great ones” and twist the Torah and destroy people’s lives.
We have to do two things. One, we have to stop demonizing men who don’t
give their wives a GET, and we should rather listen to their side of the story,
especially if they have children. Two, we need to increase the study of
Shulchan Aruch Even Hoezer, Family and Marriage Laws so we will be safe from
the inventions of the “great ones.”
We want to publicize flyers, booklets, audio tapes, telephone
conferences, and have public teachings about the laws of Gittin and family.
Thank you,
Dovid Eidensohn
Saturday, October 24, 2015
The Hidden Mamzerim - And Why They Are Hidden
By Rabbi Dovid E.
Eidensohn
I received a call from a prominent
Gittin personality who told me the following: One, the Rabbis Kaminetskys and Rabbi
Greenblatt are not the only ones who make remarriages without a GET. There are
others with positions in various Beth Dins. But the vast majority of Haredi
rabbis and even Modern Orthodox rabbis
disagree. Therefore, this guarantees that from these “remarried” women
will come children considered to be mamzerim or at least doubtful mamzerim. And
who would want to marry somebody who may be a mamzer? And if a child has even
laaz, a whispering that he may be a mamzer, who would marry him?
Another thing this rabbi told me
was the following: A woman remarried
without a GET. Somebody asked her why she did not fear that people will
denigrate her or her children as adulterers and mamzerim? She replied, “I know
ladies who remarried without a GET and they live in peace. I, too, will live in
peace.”
Well, Tamar Epstein Friedman will
not have this luxury, no fault of her own. She only does what her rabbis the
Kaminetskys tell her. But such a pity on her new children. Everyone knows that
they are mamzerim or at best doubtful mamzerim, who are also forbidden in
marriage. But we have to be aware of the two things this rabbi told me. One,
there are rabbis with positions in Beth Dins who permit remarriage without a GET. And there are people among us
remarried without a GET who are having children, and nobody is aware of the
problem. These children are part of our
community and nobody suspects any problems. Maybe it is time to teach people to
suspect problems.
There are those who are trying to
organize a response to this problem on the national or international level. I
wish them success. Personally, I have no hope for this at this time. I am
looking for something else, a small group of people who follow the Shulchan
Aruch Even Hoezer and the Poskim. I am now talking to people who want to do
something in response to the Tamar
outrage. It is a person here and a person there, but since so many people are
good and angry, the number will grow. And when it reaches a certain level, it
will become strong and able to influence a lot of people.
I want to distribute flyers about
these problems to make people aware of the halochose. I want to speak in
different areas to educate and inspire as many people as possible. And I want
to produce educational materials to teach people the halochose with some depth.
If you want to get involved or help
out in this cause, please contact me Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn at 845-578-1917
or eidensohnd@gmail.com .
Sunday, October 18, 2015
The Horror of Tamir
Epstein Freidman Making Mamzerim
By Rabbi Dovid
E. Eidensohn
Tamir Epstein Friedman of Philadelphia has left her husband without a
GET. Rabbi Notto Greenblatt of Memphis, Tennessee, re-married her although he
knew that she did not have a GET from
her husband. Tamir’s real husband Aharon
wanted to arrange a GET, but the Rabbis Kaminetsky claimed that they have proof
that Aharon, the husband, has serious mental illnesses that cannot be cured and
she is therefore justified in leaving him and remarrying without a GET.
We will bring sources here to show that even if this claim that Aharon
Friedman had mental problems that can’t be cured and no woman could live with
it was true, and it surely is not at all true, she would still not be free.
These are the words of the Gadol HaDor in America before Reb Moshe and during
some of Reb Moshe’s life, the Gaon RavYosef Eliyohu Henkin, in his work The Writings
of The Gaon Rav Yosef Eliyohu Henkin (Volume I in the section Pirushei Ivro
page כג 45): “We have not heard and have not
known from Talmudic times that a Kiddushin can be negated because of a blemish,
and certainly after a full Marriage [when the couple was together] or [have we
heard] that it was ruled that she is free without a GET. And we have seen these
kind of questions in all places and at all times, and in all of these instances
they required a GET! We see from this that no matter what the circumstances of
the blemish and problem, it was at best still a doubt and it was impossible to
negate the Kiddushin at all. Even if the blemish was proven and even if the
other side did not know about it previously. And look at the Teshuva of the
Noda Biyehuda II number 80…”
The Noda Biyehuda there discusses many cases of women who were trapped
in terrible marriages and were Agunose mamosh, and some wanted to claim
that “for such a husband she did not accept marriage”. But the Noda Biyehuda rejects this and shows
that even many women who were unable to tolerate their husbands and were
Agunose and were tricked into marriage could not negate the marriage. The Gaon
Rav Henkin in his two volume collection of writings devotes much time to
explaining these laws and basically says that when a couple marries even if
great problems and blemishes are found the marriage cannot be negated without a
GET, similar to what the Noda Biyehuda says. If there are physical problems
that render a woman AILENUSE or incapable of serving as a woman in marriage, or
if a man had a similar problem, there may be a possibility to negate the
marriage. But if someone is a normally structured male or female, and has
serious problems, what Rav Henkin says is true. He also treats in his work at length
about Ailenuse. See also Tosfose Kesubose 72b d”h על מנת. Rav Henkin devotes much to these kind of
questions in Volume I page 39 – 50. HaGaon Reb Moshe Feinstein zt'L disagrees and with certain extreme cases
will consider the woman unmarried because had she known about the husband she
never would have married him. But I heard from Reb Moshe’s gabei and the Gaon
Rav Avigder Miller zt”l that Reb Moshe refrained later on in his life from
doing some of the more extreme findings in his teshuvose about Gittin. If so, we can probably doubt if Reb Moshe
would want the teshuvose about remarrying without a GET to be done today. This
is because even Reb Moshe accepts that nobody who dealt with these issues ever
agreed with him, going back generations. The greatest authorities such as
Kovneh Rov and Bais HaLevi the Rov of Brisk and father of Reb Chaim
Soloveitchik clearly forbid negating a marriage regardless of blemish or such
problems. And their refusal to accept this is a statement of the gemora
Kesubose 73b based on a Mishneh Kesubose 72b and a gemora that is quoted in the
Shulchan Aruch EH 39:5 with no disagreement.
From the Gro and Beis Shmuel there it would seem that the obligation for
a GET is a Torah obligation not just rabbinical obligation. See also Even
Hoezer 117 3-4.
And even if Reb Moshe did want
marital negation done today, he makes it clear that he only permits this if
there is absolutely no chance for a GET.
Everything, everything, must be done to get a GET otherwise he does not
give permission for the woman to remarry without a GET. Aharon Friedman told me
he would give a GET but wanted better visitation rights. Reb Moshe would thus
never permit Aharon’s wife to remarry. Thus the two Gedolei haDor of the past
generation, Rav Henkin and Reb Moshe, would both forbid Tamir from remarrying
without a GET. The Noda Biyehuda, one of the greatest poskim of the past
centuries, makes it clear that in the case of much worse problems than what
Tamir faced, he forbids her to remarry without a GET. And we mentioned before
that the Kovneh Rov, Gadol HaDor and the Bais HaLevi Rov of Brisk and father of
Reb Chaim Soloveitchik, also required a GET. So Rabbi Greenblatt and the
Kaminetsky crew disagree with Reb Moshe, Rav Henkin, the Noda Biyehuda, the
Kovneh Rov, the Bais HaLevi and the fact that Reb Moshe himself says that
throughout the generations, when these questions come up, the rabbis always
refused permission for the woman to remarry. But Rabbi Greenblatt disagrees
with centuries of clear pesak based upon a teaching in Shulchan Aruch which is
based upon an open gemora in Kesubose 73b and a Mishneh 72b.
Those who dealt with Aharon and Tamir in their marriage problems say
that the whole Heter of Rabbi Greenblatt is completely wrong, and that any
child Tamir will have with her new husband are mamzerim. The sin of this falls
on Rabbi Greenblatt, and those who tricked him with clever deceptions will
answer in this world and the next.
1.
See EH 39:5 – If one
marries a woman with Kiddushin alone, and does not make a condition but finds
that she has a blemish most people refuse to accept, it is a doubt if the
Kiddushin is negated and so the woman must have a GET.
2.
If one marries a
woman with Nisuin and makes no conditions, but finds that she has a blemish
most people refuse to accept, it seems that she is married and needs a GET but does not get any Kesubo money. EH 117:3-4
3.
See Kesubose 172b
the Mishneh and the gemora on 173b about if a marriage is negated because
somebody had a problem. One opinion is
that we need a GET dirabonon and one holds it is a doubt and we need a GET from
the Torah. The Beis Shmuel and Gro rule in Shulchan Aruch 39:5 that the GET is
a Torah obligation (see Tosphose על מנת 72b, which is the opinion of Rovo in the gemora).
4.
In the event that
the blemish or problem was that the male or female were physically unlike
normal men or women, this may produce a situation when if this is discovered
after the marriage that the marriage is negated. See Rav Henkin’s sefer Volume
I page 41 about a woman who had a structural problem and men who lacked the
ability to procreate, etc. See 41-50 there.
5.
A prominent Dayan
went to Israel and talked to Rav Nissim Karelitz, who told him that Tamir
needed a GET to remarry. The Head of a Beth Din said that without a GET her
children will be mamzerim.
6.
What is the halacha
when rabbis disagree about a woman being able to remarry? The rebbe of the Beis
Yosef, Reb Yosef ben Leiv the מהר"י בן לב states that if
rabbis disagree the woman should not remarry. And even if the majority of
rabbis permit the remarriage but some forbid it, the custom of the rabbis in
his time was for the woman not to remarry.
7.
This has a source in
Tosfose Kesubose 2a that when somebody deals with a possible sin that will last
for a long time, such as a marriage to a woman who is forbidden to him, we
reject the usual standards that would create leniency, and are strict. This is
because a sin that lasts for a long time and occurs many times must be treated
in a strict matter.
8.
If rabbis disagree
and the question is a Torah sin not a rabbinical sin, we must take the
stringent side. See Ramo Choshen Mishpot 25:2 in Ramo.
The question now is, what is
next? How many women will apply for negation of marriages that produce
mamzerim? How many rabbis will be influenced by Rabbis Greenblatt and
Kaminetsky to invent new laws about freeing women from their husbands?
Another question is, what do we
do when we want to marry off our children? Who can we trust?
We have to find responsible
rabbis and Beth Dins and check out each person if they had a GET or not, if it
was coerced or not, if it is valid or not.
The next generation will have
mamzerim. We must be aware of this, and make sure that we check as carefully as
we can not to marry people ruined by Rabbis Greenblatt and Kaminetsky.
Thursday, October 15, 2015
Remarrying Without a GET: The Halacha and the Problems - Unit Two
By Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn
When the news came out that Tamir
Epstein Friedman remarried without a GET, nobody knew why and how this could
happen. Little by little from speaking
with Rabbi Greenblatt and other sources an idea of what happened emerged. But this itself that a rabbi should remarry a
woman without publicly explaining a) why he did this and b) what rabbis signed
with him to permit it - is a very strange thing. The vast majority of rabbis
who heard of this are strongly opposed to the remarriage and fear that a child
born from it would be a mamzer. A prominent
rabbi from Yeshiva University called me and was so much opposed to the
remarriage of Tamir that he started to
sputter with fury.
I am writing this for a variety of
reasons. One, since prominent rabbis arranged this remarriage without a GET,
many other women will follow Tamir and get annulled marriages from Rabbi
Greenblatt and Rabbi Kaminetsky. And since the vast majority of rabbis say that
babies born from the remarriage of a woman without a GET are mamzerim, we will
have a crisis when these problem children reach marriageable age, and even
before, when the terrible label is known. I therefore, number one, want to show
that there is no reason whatsoever to rely on what Rabbi Kaminetsky and Rabbi
Greenblatt did, and they remarried a woman who is still married to her first
husband. Furthermore, since the second marriage is not recognized, the
remarried woman now becomes forbidden to her first husband and also her second husband. And if
she stays with the second husband, her children will be mamzerim, and she will
be known as a woman sinning with adultery.
Let me say this immediately. I do
not blame Tamir Epstein Friedman for what she did. She has always, as her
father before her, turned to the Kaminetskies as her Rov. Her father died
before all of this started, and she is simply doing what the Kaminetskies tell
her. Her mother gave her lawyer sixty thousand dollars to pay for a gang to
kidnap and beat the husband Aharon and force a GET out of him. The gang
attacked after Aharon had dropped off his daughter at his mother-in-law’s
house. Aharon managed to escape the attacking goons and eventually the FBI
proved that the mother’s lawyer, Goldfine, had sent a sixty thousand dollar
check to the goons to kidnap and torture Aharon until he gave the GET. This has
nothing to do with Tamir Epstein Friedman, although her mother and her mother’s
lawyer are surely in deep legal trouble, as kidnapping is a capital crime in
America. The Kaminetskys father and son will answer for their sins in the next
world, a process begun now in this world, as people are furious at them for
doing such a thing and making mamzerim.
I called up Rabbi Notto Greenblatt
and told him that he performed a
marriage on a married woman. He replied that “Gedolim” permitted the marriage
and whoever disagrees has Chutspah.” I responded that the Chazon Ish says that
if a Beth Din requires a husband to give a GET when he is not obligated to do
so, and the husband writes it, the GET is invalid for two reasons: One, the
Beth Din pressured him with their authority, and the pressure of honoring Beth
Din when the Beth Din has no legal right to pressure invalidates the GET by the
standards not of the rabbis but of the Torah. Furthermore says the Chazon Ish,
if the husband had known that the rabbis spoke without the authority of the
Torah and had erred, he never would have given the GET. Therefore, the GET is
invalid as a mistake, by Torah not just rabbinical standards.
Rabbi Greenblatt hung up on me.
Anyone who reads the Shulchan Aruch
or gemoras knows this. Even if “Gedolim” ruled on something but were mistaken,
their ruling is cancelled. Not only do we have an extensive coverage of this in
Choshen Mishpot 25, when the mistakes of great rabbis are cancelled, and when
the rabbis have to pay for their mistakes, but we have an entire trachtate in
the Talmud Huriyuse about the mistakes not of just great rabbis but of the
greatest rabbis, the Sanhedrin, who cause all of Israel to sin and sacrifices
must be brought to atone for this.
And now Rabbi Greenblatt has done a
strange thing to marry a married woman without explaining why, and he considers
all of the prominent experts on Gittin to be “chutzpah.”
Well, Rabbi Greenblatt, a lot of
chutzpah is out there, because all of the senior rabbis that I spoke to are
furious with those who made this ridiculous
marriage and maybe mamzerim. And since the story broke recently,
people who are familiar with all of the
great authorities on marriage and what they hold about annulling marriages have
been hard at work, and no Gadol has been discovered. Precisely the opposite.
Senior rabbis have signed against the second marriage; the major rabbis of America, Israel and
Canada. Even prominent Modern Orthodox rabbis such as Rabbi Herschel Schechter
are disappointed with the Kaminetsky invention.
Months before Tamir remarried, a prominent
Dayan went to HaGaon Reb Nissim Karelitz of Bnei Braq to discuss this, and Reb
Nissim said that the woman may not remarry without a GET. That Dayan told me
that when he was in Israel Dayanim came to him with disbelief that anybody
could perform a marriage for a woman who is already married and has no GET.
Yes, what the Kaminetskies did is unbelievable, but it happened. And what we
have to do now is to make sure that everyone understands that what the Kaminetskies
did is pure rishuse that will produce mamzerim. As for Rabbi Greenblatt and his
“Gedolim” he refuses to name them and nobody has discovered a “Gadol” who
agrees with him.
There are those who point to Reb
Moshe Feinstein that he permits some women to leave their husbands without a
GET only if no GET at all is possible. But since the husband Aharon Friedman
wanted to give a GET if the custody could be improved and perhaps other things
as with all divorces, Reb Moshe would forbid Tamir from remarrying without a
GET.
Second of all, Reb Moshe’s ruling
is in defiance of the major poskim generations before him and also in defiance
of Rav Henkin who was the older Rov and probably greater than Reb Moshe.
Furthermore, there is an open gemora forbidding the woman to leave her husband
without a GET in Kesubose 73b. How can
anyone permit a woman to remarry even with a husband who is truly a monster,
when this conflicts with open gemora, a ruling of the Shulchan Aruch and the
Gro and the Beis Shlomo, that we pasken like Rovo and the woman needs a GET
because it is a doubt of the Torah, and the fact that the greatest gedolim
forbade a woman to remarry without a GET even when the husband was truly a
monster.
I also heard from HaGaon Rav
Avigder Miller zt”l that some of Reb Moshe’s leniencies he retracted as he got
older and the world got more frum. I was told by the Gabei of Reb Moshe clearly
not to use a certain leniency mentioned in Igeres Moshe. If so, we cannot rely
on Reb Moshe, especially when we know that Rav Henkin, who lived at his time
and was older and more senor to him, forbids this. Rav Henkin says that some
did want to make conditions even after marriage that could free the wife, but
four hundred rabbonim attacked this leniency and ruled that no conditions can
free the woman once she is in the state of Nisuin or intimacy and surely when
she has a child from her husband, as Tamir did.
Thus for generations rabbis here and there invented
the right to toy with marriage, but the were greatly outnumbered by rabbis who were
much greater than they were. As Rav Yosher Ber Soloveitchik said of one suggestion
to make a change in marital law: All of the Ends are Ended
Why Tamir's Remarriage Produces Mamzerim - Unit One - Gemora and Shulchan Aruch
By Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn
I am writing this on Rosh Chodesh
Marcheshvon, October 13, 2015. The Yeshiva world is in a turmoil because of the
report of a woman remarrying without a GET. The rabbi who performed the
ceremony, Rabbi Notta Greenblatt of Memphis, Tennessee, does not publicly
reveal his reasons for this, nor do the Rabbis Kaminetsky of Philadelphia, who
were the main influence on the woman to accept a remarriage.
I had heard previously about Tamir’s
declaration that she no longer needed a GET. In my blog
torahhalacha.blogspot.com, I attacked the Kaminetskys for backing this. I said
that if she marries and has a child I will declare the child to be a mamzer.
When she did marry without a GET, I called up a Rov who was the most involved
with the couple for several years and knew all of the aspects that pertain to
their marriage. I asked him if there was anything that he noticed in the
husband that would qualify for the woman to declare that her marriage was a
mistake and nullified. He said there was nothing. He also said that if she has
a child the child will be a mamzer. I
have spoken to major heads of Gittin Beth Dins, and they are universally
opposed in the strongest terms to this remarriage. And yet, some of them will
not sign against it, for various reasons. This leaves the impression that the
remarriage isn’t so terrible, and maybe there is a reason to be lenient. I am
therefore writing this to show that there is no excuse for the remarriage and
if she has a child the children are mamzerim.
A woman who married and found out
that her husband had serious problems, or a man who married and found out that
his wife has serious problems, is a field with a lot of literature on it, from
the Talmud, Tur and Shulchan Aruch, and poskim. Keep in mind that marriage
takes place first with Kiddushin, when the wife is not in the house of the husband
and not in a Chupah, but perhaps in her father’s house. Then there is a
complete marriage called Nisuin, when the wife goes to the husband’s house, or to a Chupah, or has intimacy.
A condition made before the woman
went to the house of the husband is very strong. If somebody violated the
condition by Kiddushin and not by Nisuin, the marriage is negated. But if the
couple made a full marriage or Nisuin and it was determined that the condition
made by Kiddusin was violated, we reject the condition. This is because once a
couple completes the marriage and are together, we assume that they negate any
condition that could negate the marriage. Perhaps because being together with a
negated Kiddushin in Zenuse. Also, the pleasure of intimacy can somehow cause
somebody to cancel any conditions that would destroy the marriage. We will soon
quote the Shulchan Aruch in these matters.
First, a Mishneh in Kesubose 72b:
“A man who takes a woman with Kiddushin on the condition that she not have
oaths] and he finds out that she has oaths, the marriage is negated. If he
marries her [full marriage] without conditions and she is round to have oaths
she leaves him without a Kesubo [meaning she must have a GET]…If he married
her [full marriage]without conditions
and finds that she has blemishes she must leave
him [with a GET] but no Kesubo.”
The gemora discusses if “He married
her with Kiddushin and then married her completely without a condition: Rav
says she needs a GET.” The Shulchan Aruch Even Hoezer 38:35 says, “One who
marries Kiddushin on a condition, and then had intimacy with her, or took her
into his house without a condition, she needs a GET. Even though the condition
was not fulfilled [we fear that] maybe even though the condition was not
fulfilled, perhaps he cancelled the condition when he slept with her or brought
her to his house.” Ramo adds, “And if somebody
else gave her Kiddushin she needs a GET from both of them.”
See Shulchan Aruch EH 39:5 “One
makes Kiddushin without conditions, and then discoverers a serious blemish, the
woman has a doubtful marriage [meaning she must have a GET].” Beis Shmuel there
quotes Chelkas Mechokake that as soon as the person realizes the problem he
complains and wants to break the marriage. But if he procrastinated and
delayed, the marriage is valid.
The Beis Shmuel then says that if
the Kiddushin and the Nisuin were done without making conditions, and it was
discovered that a major blemish, etc. was there, the marriage is valid.
Meaning, perhaps the blemish negated the marriage and perhaps not. The Torah
requires the couple to divorce with a GET or else the woman is considered married,
at least,there is a doubt if she is
really married.
The gemora discusses this in
Kesubose 73b: “One who makes Kiddushin
and the Nisuin without a condition and it is discovered that the woman [or the
man] has a serious blemish, she leaves the marriage [with a GET] but no
Kesubo.” The gemora says, “She needs a GET but does not get money for the
Kesubo.” One opinion is that the GET is only a rabbinical requirement, but it
seems that Rovo feels that it is a genuine doubt, and the Torah requires a GET.
The Beis Shmuel says that the
Rambam and the Tur rule like Rovo, that the woman needs a GET by the Torah
standard not just rabbinical standards. It seems that the Gro agrees that we
rule like Rovo. The Gro also suggests that we look at EH 38:35. There we find
“One who makes Kiddushin with a condition, and had intimacy or came to the
house of the husband without a condition, she needs a GET, even though the
condition was not fulfilled [there was a bad blemish or similar thing that
called for the cancelation of the marriage] perhaps the man cancelled the
condition when he had intimacy or brought his wife to his house.”
“Ramo writes, “And if another man makes
Kiddushin with this woman she needs a GET from both of them.” We thus see the
process of making a doubt if the marriage is cancelled. But the doubt leaves a
Torah level doubt that must be dealt with strictly.
We thus have learned of two cases
that are doubtful negations of the marriage: if the man made a condition and it
was violated but he also had intimacy or brought the wife to his house; another
case is that with no conditions made it was discovered that a bad blemish
exists. If so, there is a doubt if the person suffering from this blemish
cancelled the marriage, and we must be stringent and give the woman a GET. She
cannot just leave.
See also EH 117:3-4 “A man marries a
woman without conditions, and it is discovered that she has oaths as taught in 39, she should depart from the husband
without a Kesubo [but she must have a GET.]
Also, one who marries a woman without
conditions, and it is discovered that she has serious blemishes as mentioned in
chapter 39, and the husband did not know about this blemish, she should leave without
a Kesubo.”
We have shown so far the gemora and
the Shulchan Aruch ruling that if people marry and find problems the marriage is
not cancelled. And even if they did make a condition before they achieved full marriage
and intimacy, we assume that the full marriage caused the husband to cancel his
conditions, at least, there is a doubt about this.
If so, what happens when somebody has
a husband like Aharon Friedman, a person who has achieved a high position in the
National Congress in Washington, DC for years, a person who is admired by many people.
What grounds are there to negate the marriage?
We understand that somebody went to
some rabbis and said that Aharon was mentally ill and cannot be cured. The rabbis
believed these somebodys, which is a grave error. When two people differ and argue,
and a rabbi or a Beth Din gets involved, they must talk to both side of the case
equally. Did this happen with Aharon? End Unit One in this Discussion
Wednesday, October 7, 2015
Family Problems Audio - Part One
Family Problems Audio - Part One
A series of audios about Family Problems, the recent scandal of a woman remarrying without a GET, and a discussion of where things are and where we are going and what to do about it.
Saturday, October 3, 2015
Mamzer Maker Talks about "Gedolim"
The Mamzer
Maker Talks about "Gedolim"
By Rabbi Dovid E.
Eidensohn
In my previous post I described my phone call to Rabbi
Greenblatt of Memphis when I challenged him why he performed a marriage on a
woman married to somebody else. His response was that what he did was an act of
Gedolim. He said further that any Beth Din that disagreed with him was a
mechutsof, because once Gedolim have ruled nobody can disagree. When I quoted
for him a Chazon Ish that a Beth Din that rules differently than the Shulchan
Aruch is to be ignored and if they made a GET it was invalid for two reasons by
Torah not only rabbinical ruling, he hung up the phone. What I gained from this
phone call was very important, not just for me, but for everyone. We now know
the problem of “Gedolim.” In this letter I will talk about Gedolim and if
others may challenge their decisions. Hopefully, our next post will be to
explain what reasons Rabbi Greenblatt may have had to do something that
everyone I spoke to who knows the laws of Gittin feels is wrong and that
children born from this marriage would be mamzerim. And because the problem of
rabbis ruling about Gittin in defiance of the Shulchan Aruch is a major
problem, we have made posts on it in my blog at torahhalacha.blogspot.com and
will produce more. The growing violation of
the Shulchan Aruch is a problem even a crisis, especially for the
children born from it.
Let us return to the subject at hand: May a rabbi who
considers himself a Gadol and has found other rabbis who consider themselves as
Gedolim, rule on taking somebody’s wife away without a GET, and then claim that
anybody who shows that their procedure is not proper according to the Shulchan
Aruch and poskim is a mechutsaf.
The Chazon Ish clearly states that a husband who is not
supposed to be forced to divorce his wife and Beth Din tells him he must give a
GET and gives it because of the command of the Beth Din, that the GET is
invalid by Torah ruling. One, it was forced by the command of the Beth Din, and
two, it was given by mistake, because had the husband known the Beth Din was
wrong, he never would have given the GET. If so, people can surely challenge rabbis because everyone can make an error.
People who set themselves up as Gedolim
and therefore impervious to error are violating the Shulchan Aruch and the
Torah. Let us show this.
The subject of great rabbis, even the greatest rabbis in the
world, making an error, is found in the Talmud.
In Moed Koton 19A we find that a thief was stealing the fruit from the
orchard of Reish Lokish, one of the greatest scholars of the Talmud. Reish
Lokish found him stealing and shouted at him to stop but he refused to stop.
Reish Lokish then pronounced the ban upon him, called SHAMTO, a very serious
curse. The thief replied, “You
pronounced the ban on me for stealing from you. But if I stole from you I owe
you money, but I don’t deserve such a terrible curse. The curse is therefore
not on me, but on you.” The man then left and Reish Lokish went to the
authorities to ask about what the man said. The Beth Din said, “His curse is
valid and your curse was not.” From here
we see that a thief, a lowly man, can criticize the work of a great rabbi in
such a matter. If a rabbi makes a mistake, he can be corrected. And if the
rabbi does something wrong, he can be told so. And the rabbi cannot respond,
“But I am a Gadol.”
The Talmud has an entire section on great rabbis making
mistakes, called Huriyuse. There on 4b there is a Mishneh that the entire
Sandhedrin, the leaders of the generation in Israel, can err with a mistake or
even by deliberately declaring a wrong opinion. In another Mishneh there we
have a Sanhedrin, the greatest rabbis, deciding a case, and one rabbi tells
them they are mistaken. That disqualifies the entire ruling. Thus, it is
possible for dozens of great rabbis to make a mistake that is noticed only by
one rabbi, and that negates the entire power of the ruling of the Sanhedrin, although
in ordinary lower courts majority rules. But people at the highest levels do
make mistakes. Being great is not a guarantee that you are right. And when
somebody offers a correction, you must listen and be ready to change your mind.
Furthermore, for a rabbi to rule on negating a marriage,
something unheard of in the Torah community, he may only do such an invention
after he asks permission from the greatest rabbis in the world.
I was involved in a case of a doubtful mamzer whereby the
greatest rabbis in Israel had a certain innovative plan to permit him to
remarry, but although it was mentioned in ancient books it was not done today.
They therefore sent me to HaGaon Reb Moshe Feinstein for his opinion, that is,
if he would approve of what they wanted to do. He told them that they had his
permission to do what they proposed, but he hinted strongly to them that he
wanted them to give him the question, and they did. The Israeli rabbi who told
me to give the question to Reb Moshe and not the Israeli gedolim was the senior
rabbi in Israel, Reb Shlomo Zalman Aurebach. But to do something new you have
to have backing from everyone, and Reb Moshe solved the problem with nothing
new.
For a rabbi living in Memphis Tenn. to negate a marriage and
remarry her without asking all of the
great rabbis their opinion is a major chutzpah that I never heard of. And
nobody it seems knows who the Gedolim are, other than Rabbi Greenblatt and
probably one other rabbi who is not at all an expert on the laws of Gittin but
a Rosh Yeshiva. Why don’t we have a list of the “Gedolim” who permitted this
and their reasoning? What we do know is that the vast majority of Torah rabbis
who know the laws of Gittin are completely opposed to the remarriage of a
married woman. If so, this itself creates a situation whereby most rabbis
almost all of them will consider the children born form this couple to be
mamzerim. So who will the children marry? Isn’t this an incredible cruelty?
All of this could have been avoided if any of the people on the wife’s side had
responded to my request that we make a GET by approving some deal with the
husband about custody so he can see his daughter more often. The husband wanted
to give a GET but only if the wife will improve his custody instead of fleeing
to Philadelphia and making him travel many hours to see his daughter.
The story
of the husband and his suffering is hideous, and is another story, a story that
tells a lot about the level of rabbis and their dealings with women who demand
a divorce. The entire process of a few individuals who are closely associated
with certain people and certain ideas who just pronounce a woman free from a
marriage with no proof and no list of who are the “Gedolim” involved, is an
outrage. And Rabbi Notto Greenblatt Makes Mamzerim when? In Tishrei the same
time of Rosh HaShana, Yom Kippur, and Succose. That tells us a lot about what
is holy to Rabbi Greenblatt.
We have a lot of material to add from the Shulchan
Aruch on how Rabbi Greenblatt mishandled this very sensitive and serious
matter. Much material on this exact case is on my blog
torahhalacha.blogspot.com . I wrote there to protest the Kaminetsky family in
Philadelphia encouraging Tamir Epstein Friedman to remarry without a GET. I
brought down proofs from the Shulchan Aruch and the Talmud that there is no way
to permit her to remarry without a GET.
This position was taken by the Gaon Rav Nissim Karelitz when he was asked by a
prominent Dayan. The Dayan told me that he was inundated in Israel with
questions by other Dayanim how anyone can allow a married woman to remarry
without a GET and nobody had ever heard of such a thing. The Rosho Greenblatt
and the Rosho Kaminetsky thus are doing something that is considered completely
wrong by everyone this Dayan spoke to and those that I spoke to. Is this not
cruelty to the babies born from them? How heartless are they to do such a
hideous thing.
This whole thing could have been settled with an improvement
in custody for the husband. But no. The Kaminetskies encouraged Tamir to
declare she doesn’t need a GET and she began dating, and now is “married” to
somebody while she is really married to Aharon. And when Tamir has children
from her new “husband,” and nearly all rabbis consider her children to be
mamzerim, who will they find to marry?
Thursday, October 1, 2015
Rabbi Greenblatt Makes Mamzerim
Noto Greenblatt Makes
Mamzerim
By Rabbi Dovid E.
Eidensohn
Today Thursday Chol HaMoed Succos I received a call that Rabbi
Notto Greenblatt of Memphis marriedTamir
Epstein Friedman to somebody although she had no GET from her husband Aharon Friedman. I called Rabbi Greenblatt and he said that he
had performed the ceremony. When I told him that great rabbis forbad the
remarriage without a GET he replied that Gedolim had permitted her to remarry.
He told me that if Rabbi Elyashev zt”l would disagree it would not change his
mind, and that the rabbis who disagree with his “Gedolim” just have chutzpah.
He asked me what a person like me has to do with this that I disagree with him.
I told him that the Gaon Rab Yosef
Shalom Elyashev zt”l gave me a semicha to have a Beth Din for Gittin and
further he gave permission for me to use his name for it.
I called up a Rov who
was intensely involved in the couple when they discussed their marital
problems, and I asked him if there was any chance that the husband has some
kind of defect that could have cancelled the marriage and thus allowed her to
remarry. He told me there was no such defect and that if the woman has any
children they will be mamzerim.
I quoted to Rabbi Greenblatt the pesak of Chazon Ish
EH 99:12 that if the Torah does not require a husband to be coerced to divorce
his wife but a Beth Din told the husband he is worthy of being forced to
divorce and he gives the GET because of that statement, the GET is invalid.
First it is invalid because the Torah did not require a coercion and the Beth Din
did require a coercion. Thus, the Beth Din coerced the GET in violation of the
Torah and the coercion is invalid and the GET is invalid. Secondly, the husband
gave the GET under false pretenses thinking that he must be coerced to give a GET.
Therefore, the GET is invalid by the Torah not just rabbinic level. Anyone who learns carefully the laws of Gittin
regarding this issue knows that there was no source to permit a married woman
to just remarry and the “Gedolim” like Rabbi Greenblatt who permit these things
are just making mamzerim. I wonder how many mamzerim Rabbi Greenblatt has made.
Any woman married with his special inventions should ask a proper Beth Din if
she is permitted to remain with her husband and if her children are mamzerim.
But the main problem is that married women cannot remarry
without a GET or the death of their husband. Reb Moshe Feinstein was asked
about a husband who was discovered to be strongly addicted to homosexuality and
the wife ran away. He said that the great authorities of all generations had
refused to permit her to remarry for various reasons. But he showed that in this
extreme case there is room for leniency but since the great authorities
disagreed with him he ruled that the woman must do everything possible to get a
GET. Only if all fails does he permit this. And this only in this extreme case
and with the understanding the no other great authority in centuries permitted
it.
In this case of Mrs. Friedman, I spoke to the husband months
before and he told me he would give a GET if the wife would allow him proper
custody rights. Therefore, Reb Moshe would never have permitted her to remarry.
Therefore, in this case, not only do all of the great rabbis of the generations
forbid the woman to remarry without a GET, but even Reb Moshe would forbid it
until she gave in to the custody demands.
On my blogspot torahhalacha.blogspot.com I have many posts
on these topics and in the leading Book Section there is a collection of many
of them.
I can be reached at 845-578-1917 or eidensohnd@gmail.com.
Dovid Eidensohn
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