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Showing posts with label Forcing a GET relying on witnesses. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Forcing a GET relying on witnesses. Show all posts
Wednesday, November 1, 2017
If Witnesses Testify that a Wife is Right to Hate Her Husband Can the Husband be Forced to GIve Her a GET?
Can we Force a
Husband to Give a Divorce When Witnesses Agree With His Wife’s Bitter
Complaints?
Rabbi Dovid Eidensohn Monsey, NY 845-578-1917 eidensohnd@gmail.com 12 Cheshvon 5778
We know that a wife who
demands a GET because her husband is disgusting to her is refused a GET. Although the Rashbam and Rambam and many
Geonim permit or require forcing a GET when this happens, the latter poskim led
by Rabbeinu Tam and the Ri forbid forcing the husband to give his wife a GET
when she claims that her husband disgusts her. See the Rashbo Volume 7 chapter
414 which is quoted by all of the authorities in Shulchan Aruch Even Hoezer
Laws of Kesubose chapter 77 paragraphs 2,3. See the Gro there #5 who comments
that everyone [of the latter poskim] accepts that forcing a GET is forbidden
unless there is a rare exception.
This seems to contradict
the Shulchan Aruch Even Hoezer about marriage chapter 154.There it says that a husband
who takes a job that causes him to have a bad odor is forced to give his wife a
GET.
The answer probably is
that when a woman makes a claim that she wants a GET because the husband has
something wrong with him that she cannot tolerate, we want to know if the woman
is saying the truth or not. Perhaps she wants to get rid of this husband and
marry somebody else that she likes better. This is taught in the Mishneh in
Nedorim 90b. There was a time when we believed a woman to say things that would
force the husband to give her a GET. For instance, she could say that she slept
with somebody not her husband and this would force her husband to give her a
GET. But then the Mishneh says that the laws were changed. We no longer believe
women to make up a story that forces her husband to give her a GET. Maybe she
is lying to leave this husband and find another husband she likes better.
However, if witnesses corroborate
the story of the wife, that is usually proof that she is not lying and the husband
can be forced to give her a GET. Thus, the laws stated in Shulchan Aruch Even
Hoezer 154 about a husband who has a bad odor that forces him to divorce his
wife is not a contradiction to the law that a woman cannot force her husband to
give a GET. If there is no proof that she is right, she is not believed. Maybe
she just wants another husband. But if there is proof and others corroborate her
statements about the husband, or if any Beth Din can tell absolutely that the
husband goes around with a terrible smell all of the time, in such a case, we
believe the wife, and the husband must give a GET.
We are not coming to
pasken any Shaalose here, because the issues of believing a wife and believing
witnesses is not a simple one. See the Tur Shulchan Aruch Even Hoezer chapter
77 and the commentary of the Beis Yosef page 116. There is a great literature
in these matters, and we have mentioned one facet. A woman is not believed to
force a GET unless she can produce outside proof such as witnesses.
Tosfose in Kesubose 63b D”H
Avol quotes the Shaaltose that if witnesses testify that a woman acted in a
suspicious manner that she might have been sinning with a man not her husband,
the husband is forced to divorce his wife. Again, these matters fill many pages
and we are not coming to clarify the final laws. However, we do want to
establish that although a woman may not force a GET from her husband, if her
demands are supported by witnesses, it is quite possible that the husband will
be forced to give her a GET. But her claims without support are not accepted.
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