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Thursday, February 1, 2018

A Husband or Wife without a Functioning Marriage


Rambam Chapter 15 of the Laws of Marriage says, “The rabbis have decreed that a man should not be without a wife lest he come to sinful thoughts.” The Magid Mishneh there brings the source of the Rambam in the gemora Yevomose 62B, “A man is forbidden to live without a wife.” Let us understand that the Rambam and the Magid are not saying that if a man has a wife and they have no intimacy that this is okay. It is not okay. The Rambam and the Magid mean that only when a man has a functioning marriage where there is regularly intimacy as taught in the Shulchan Aruch and gemora is he fulfilling his obligation. But if a wife wants a divorce and the husband refuses to give her one, even if they continue to live in the same house, the husband has no intimacy nor does the wife. This can cause both of them to find intimacy with another person who is forbidden to them and if they do this they are doing a horrible sin.

See also the Code of Laws Even Hoezer about marriage, chapter 76 paragraph 13, that a husband or wife who demand that intimacy be only wearing clothes separating husband and wife, that this is grounds for divorce. See also Beis Shmuel there. This may be an argument among the authorities, but this is what it says in the Code of Laws.

Another problem is that even if a marriage is broken and husband and wife live in the same house without intimacy, the biological processes of both husband and wife, the need for regularly intimacy, is not being served. This can either lead to the husband and wife seeking other partners not their spouses, or the husband can sin with masturbation, a serious sin. But biology must be served, and one who lives without a functioning wife is not serving his biology. The wife also has a biology and emotions and they must be served.


The Shulchan Aruch Even Hoezer chapter 23 paragraph one says that it is forbidden to emit sperm and this is a very great sin. The Shulchan Aruch elaborates on the very serious nature of that sin.


If so, a husband who has reached a point with his wife that he cannot have regularly intimacy with her, either because she refuses or because he does not want to be with her, we have a crisis. Biology is burning for a young person, and it doesn’t go away for many years until the person is really old, and even then, who knows if anybody is really cleansed of the biology. If so, the only solution is a good marriage. If a person is unable to have intimacy but the marriage is good, things may be fine. But especially with younger people, any marriage with no functioning intimacy and nothing to calm the fire of the biology, what hope is there to be saved from serious sins?


There are today thousands of people without a proper protection from their biology. Many people divorced and cannot remarry for whatever reason. Many people can marry but are reluctant because of the many problems in marriages today, the gender war, etc. Many people delayed marriage until it got to the point that they could only marry by accepting somebody much older or much different than the person they always planned to marry. Such people can wait and wait and wait until they find what they always wanted, but it is not easy to find somebody you wanted in your youth when you are much older.


This is a crisis and it is only getting worse. The gender wars, the fears, the lack of proper guides for many people, yes, it is a crisis and it is only getting worse.


Let us review our teaching here. A husband and a wife are supposed to live together with regularly intimacy. This is crucial to save them both from sin. If the marriage is not going well, and the two live in the same house, but there is no regular intimacy, we have a very dangerous situation that can lead to very serious sins. It is therefore sinful for a man and a wife to live in the same house in a broken marriage without regular intimacy.


This is crucial today when many marriages break down and intimacy suffers, that both should recognize they are living in sin that can lead them heaven forfend to very serious sin. Again, it is a sin for a husband or a wife to live without regular intimacy. If the marriage has broken down both husband and wife live in sin. Now, if the husband wants the wife but the wife is against the husband and doesn’t want anything to do with him, for instance, the classical case of a woman complaining that her husband disgusts here, this is a situation where there is no proper intimacy in the family, and it is a sin for both husband and wife to live together.


A woman with Kiddushin cannot force the husband to divorce her against his will, only to divorce her willingly. And if the husband refuses to divorce her willingly, he is living in sin, and she is suffering, but the sin is not hers, the sin is that of the husband who will not give her a GET. If there are children who will suffer from a broken family and a GET from father to mother, it may be that the husband has an excuse to save the children from a divorce. But the husband is living without a functioning marriage, which can lead to serious sins.


Again, a couple living together and certainly living apart without regular intimacy are living in sin. If the marriage has broken down but there cannot be a divorce because of the children, we have a very serious problem that leads to serious sins. Every effort must be made to rectify the problem.


Perhaps, if the Beth Din or people involved in solving the problem can convince the husband to improve his attitude to the wife, and if the wife can be convinced to improve her attitude to the husband, perhaps they can improve their marriage and find a way to have regular intimacy. But if not, they are both living separately and are both exposed to biological problems that lead to serious sin.


Experienced rabbonim have told me that today there are entire sections of Orthodox people who live in sin, because of the problems today with marriage. Every day that the marriage exists without regular intimacy is a day of sin.


On the one hand, a woman cannot force a Kiddushin GET from the husband. On the other hand, the husband is not allowed to live without a functioning marriage, meaning, a marriage with regular intimacy. Something has to give. And the greatest efforts must be made to solve the problem. The key is to find people who can solve these problems, and bring the husband and wife back together until they accept regular intimacy.


On the one hand, a husband cannot be forced to divorce his wife if the marriage was made with Kiddushin. On the other hand, the husband is not allowed to live without a regular intimacy, nor is the wife permitted to live this way.


We come to a situation where either people get involved who can solve the problem of the marriage, or they must consider a divorce. If children are involved, and a divorce is a terrible thing for them, and perhaps husband and wife don’t want to divorce, and yet they don’t want to have regular intimacy, I don’t know how husband and wife are allowed to continue without regular intimacy, because of the biology that has no cure. 

Wednesday, November 12, 2014

Why are there so many Horrible Broken Marriages and Divorces? Part One

Why are there so many horrible broken marriages and divorces? First of all, just what is so horrible about divorce? For the husband, divorce is a disaster because he loses his wife, he loses access to his children other than visits, he probably loses his home, he must give his ex-wife a fortune in support, and often he ends up losing his income or job, either directly or indirectly because of the divorce or broken marriage. If the divorce goes through a Beth Din he pays a lot of money for the Beth Din, for toanim, and if the case goes to court he spends a fortune on legal fees, and may be in fear of prison and the judge who can easily ruin his life with a ruling about the children or payments, even jail.

For the wife a divorce is a disaster because children always need a father on the premises, especially children troubled by a divorce and by an absent father. And if the mother plays the game of teaching the children to turn against the father, the children may eventually go back to him, and be upset with the mother for denying them a father for so long. The mother is also all alone in dealing with the family, and is not always able to deal with rough children, especially boys who need a firm hand.

For husband and wife the stigma of being divorced is painful. And then comes the question of remarriage, and the pain of who rejects and who accepts the divorced person is a sad spectacle. Often the mother is driven to think: If I would have stayed with the first one, with all of his faults, it would be better than what I am faced with now. HaGaon Reb Yaacov Kaminetsky zt"l  once told a Gittin Rov. "Tell the lady who wants a divorce to think if she would take her husband as a zivuge shayni." That is a sobering thought. But sometimes, it occurs too late. And of course,  a single mother with children is limited in her income, and it is unlikely to improve. She has to marry off her children, and maybe herself, all alone.

So why are people breaking marriages and seeking divorces? When we talk about people who are Torah Jews, steeped in musar and yiras shomayim, the number of broken families is incredible. What is going on?

There are several factors. One is that marriage in general has gone out of style in America and surely elsewhere. No longer are the majority of Americans in functioning marriages. Some are technically married but only because they have no intention of remarrying, so they remain married with no actual marriage. Others never married in the first place, but go along as if marriage is not important. And everyone realizes that even somebody who wants to be married must run the gauntlet which often ends in broken marriages and divorce. Some feel it is better not to marry. Today, even some children from Torah families are refusing to think about shidduchim. There is a huge element of single people of all ages. Getting married today is scary.

Another factor in the huge divorce rate is that there are people of all types, even in the Torah community, who have taken upon themselves the obligation to warn people about staying in a bad marriage. Now there are people who actively encourage people to face the fact that their marriage is bad, and to consider a divorce. A lady who put her husband in jail told me that she does not want a divorce. But the ladies she respected told her to do it. Sometimes parents are so upset about something the other spouse did that they encourage a broken marriage. This is a major problem.

In this, Part One of our discussion of why there are broken marriages, we have described the basic scenery of marriage today, in the Torah world. It is in danger. And we see that the highest level of Torah families are engulfed in hideous battles, even going to secular court, even publishing in secular newspapers attacking the other side. I never heard of such things. But one thing I know, tomorrow will be much worse. Therefore, we have to think deeply into this. What is going on? Why is the holiest of all institutions, the home, being destroyed? (The Zohar says that BERAISHIS the first word in the Torah, spells BAYIS ROSH.) We have discussed here in Unit One the basic scenery of despair. But now let us turn to Unit Two. We want to know why all of the Torah being learned, all of the good education a couple receives, does not enable them to survive the vicissitudes of marriage today. We turn now to Part Two.


Saturday, November 8, 2014

Shalom Bayis - Stop Broken Marriages

Shalom Bayis is one of the pillars of life, for the husband and wife, for the children, for the family, and for the community. When I was younger I never heard of anyone divorcing. In high school I heard of an English teacher who was not religious and whose husband was caught in a bad scandal and they divorced. But today we have people from the finest Torah families with many children who fight with hate and fury in and out of Beth Din and secular court, and hate takes over.

Things are so bad today that some children from the finest Torah families simply refuse to consider shidduchim. I have heard from reliable people that in Torah communities there are groups of people who celebrate when somebody decides to have a divorce. Some people seek divorce, and some people simply ignore their broken marriage and take up with foreign women.

A rabbi was asked what to do by a husband who was not with his wife for over a decade but did not want to divorce so as not to harm the prospects of his children in shidduchim. The rabbi had nothing to say, and the man continued, "My friend took up with a prostitute and she blackmailed him. So I have figured out that if I can't live like this, I will have to find a Torah woman who is married who will not blackmail me. Rabbi, please help me."

And things will be worse if we don't find the key to Shalom Bayis. There are so many singles out there that one shul in Brookllyn is mostly older men who never married. What will be in the next generation?

I spoke to somebody who is a senior therapist and for decades has worked with very hard cases in broken marriages. He told me he can help everyone and has done so for over thirty years. He ridiculed the idea that so many people have today that just because there is a problem in the marriage divorce is the solution. I heard also from other people who work in general therapy that most broken marriages could be saved. I once saved a marriage at their divorce. I don't know if the Beth Din was happy to lose its fee, but I am sure they were pleased that Shalom was made in their Beth Din.

 If things keep up like this, we will just see things sinking lower and lower. There is now is a war among rabbis. Some say that a woman who wants a divorce in a broken marriage must be given one even if we have to coerce the husband. And other rabbis, the senior ones who quote the Shulchan Aruch and Poskim say that in most cases, to force a husband to give a GET makes an invalid GET and the children born from the GET are mamzerim. In the coming generation, the Orthodox community will be divided by the mamzer issue. Those who follow the lenient rabbis will have children that the disciples of the senior rabbis will consider as possible mamzerim. In fact, we are close coming to a general suspicion that a GET given by a Beth Din that is not known to be from the few that are completely in line with the poskim, will not be recognized. HaShem Yerachem.

I suggested making today a Shalom Bayis Beth Din, so that people, prior to marriage, enter an educational program on how to behave in marriage. Upon marriage, the Beth Din handles any problems. And if the couple wants to, they can sign up for Beth Din to fine anyone who is disturbing the marriage. This would promote Shalom Bayis and if someone was obnoxious the Beth Din could fine them until they gave up and divorced. But the Beth Din will never mention the word divorce. It is there only to promote and protect the marriage, not to end it. Gedolei HaDor have told me that this is an excellent idea. Even though today there is no widely accepted prenuptial, this is accepted by everyone, because nobody forces a GET. The fineis only  to sustain the marriage.

What is wrong? Why do people from the best Torah families and the best Yeshivas and Bais Yaacovs tear their children and their families apart with the hate of a broken marriage? What is so horrible that the only solution is a mighty war?

Gedolim from this and the past generation have pointed the blame at the Yeshiva system. We have to look into this some more and see what can be done to improve the Yeshiva experiences, and we do want to talk about that on this blog. But here we mention it quickly as it deserves its own post.

Let us get to the point somewhat by saying that marriage exists in two phases that the experts call "in the bedroom and outside of the bedroom." A senior therapist told me that everything that happens in the bedroom happens or doesn't happen because of what happens or doesn't happen "outside of the bedroom." He told me that every family needs a "date" between husband and wife once a week. The husband can take his wife out somewhere to have some time together, or they can play some kind of game together. Somebody I told this to tried and and he said that  it works.

Rambam tells us that a husband must honor his wife more than he honors himself, meaning he spends more on her than he spends on himself. Rambam says that the wife must respect the husband as if he was a great officer who deserves obedience. Obviously, we are not talking about a partnership. We are talking about two people who sacrifce all for the other one. Partnerships don't work, and if they do, they often eventually break down. If a wife helps in the marriage because she expects the husband to do his share, that is the end of the marriage. If she gives all and the husband gives all, this is self-abnegation. I wrote a book about this sold on Amazon called "Secret of the Scale". The ancient scales were two plates help by strings. When something was put in one plate it went down and the other plate rose. But both plates never rose or declined simultaneously. Marriage is one person giving, or going down, and the other person being raised. The raised person then  reciprocates by going down and raising the other person.

The Torah commands the husband "and he shall make his wife rejoice." Rashi and Zohar teach, "He makes her happy, not himself." That is, the husband comes to the wife to make her happy and when she is aroused, of course, he will be happy. But if he comes to use her out to please himself, she may just hate him.

A Jew once did something so terrible that nobody could figure out how a Jew could do something so awful. A senior rabbi was asked and he replied "I don't know how a Jew could so such an evil thing. But one thing I do know. He did it leshaim shomayim." That is, he sinned because he felt he was doing a good deed.

A person who knows that stealing is forbidden may, in desperate times, do some stealing. But he knows it is wrong and he knows that he has to minimize his sin. But when somebody convinces himself that it is a mitsvah to steal, where does it end?

If a husband makes  his wife and children suffer because he wants to learn, and this ends up in a divorce, what kind of Torah is that? It is Torah built by evil. There were and there are families that are happy to suffer because they love Torah so much that the suffering is ignored. This is how the Jews in old Jerusalem lived. And this is how people lived when I learned in Lakewood under Reb Aharon zt'l. But toda when there are husbands who want to get paid up front so they can learn with comfort and everyone has to suffer for it, what kind of Torah is that?

Today, we have people going around encouraging men and women to divorce. They think they are doing a good deed. But the children and the family and broken spouses know that this is a terrible crime and sin.

It is time for people to go around and encourage marriage. We have little time left.

Sunday, November 9, 2014

Wife Demands GET, Give it to Her or What?

A wife demands a GET. Does the husband have to give it to her? Should the husband give it to her? Can the husband demand an effort to save the marriage, such as marriage counseling? Or should he just give it to her and let her take the children?

We have to answer these questions from two perspectives. One, is halacha. What does the Torah command the husband when his wife demands a GET? And secondly, we must know something else. Does the wife have a right to break the marriage and take the children from the husband?

The reason we have to ask the second question before we answer the first question is as follows. I have spoken to many people who are Torah Jews and learned, and when they feel that the wife has a right to divorce her husband, they insist on the Torah agreeing with them, even after I show them that the Torah does not agree with them. It doesn't help with some people to prove the Torah's opinion as long as they are sure that morally the wife has a right to leave. Therefore, we cannot just proclaim the Torah position. We must think carefully into a divorce, and its implications. Then we will think about the moral issues. And when we see the moral issues explored properly, we will turn to the halacha.

I have worked for years with broken marriages and women demanding a GET. A GET destroys. Husbands are broken, children take medication, families are devastated, hate grows and festers. Yes, a divorce is a disaster, for the husband, the wife, the children and the family.

When we realize this, we can better  understand the Torah position that the wife, in the vast majority of cases, cannot force her husband to give a GET, and if she does coerce the GET, it is invalid.

 Let us take a regular marriage. Two people from fine Torah homes with excellent background in Yeshiva and Bais Yaacov marry. They have a few children. Then, the wife has had enough and demands a GET. Does she have a right to do this? Does the husband have a right to refuse?

For the husband, a divorce is a life-changing disaster. Let us say he married at twenty five and now he is thirty five. By the time the divorce is completed and he is able to get back into thoughts of remarrying, years may go by. To start a new marriage at the age of forty or about that is a daunting proposition. The new wife would be a person around this age, possibly with children from a previous marriage. And if the husband remarries such a woman and has a house with her children, and hopefully, new children from him and his new wife, these children will have to get along with the husband's older children from his previous wife. Thus, three types of children will have to share one house. That may not be a problem. But if it is a problem, it is a problem. If the new wife stands up for her children, and the husband stands up for his children, you are looking at a very messy marriage.

Another problem is that the husband loses a large part of his income to support his children, now dominated by the wife. The children may visit here and there, but the wife, now divorced, has the major say and the major time with the children. The husband thus, in order to honor his wife's demand for a GET, must lose a large sum of money to support his children that he doesn't see very often, and he sees his children only here and there. And because the wife sees the children much more than the husband, and she often doesn't like the husband, the children may sense this and begin to dislike the father. Thus, the father can have the ultimate pain of his children turning against him. There are fathers who suffer terribly when their children refuse to answer their letters, or have anything to do with them. A child makes a simcha and there is an issue if the father should attend.

And today there is a legion of supporters of women who come to ladies divorcing or who want divorce, and teach them how to torture the husband. Step one is for a wife to make up lies about her husband that he beats he or molests the children. Next the wife is taught to get an order of protection based on her lies. Once that is done, if a father comes to his child's public event, he can be arrested and put in jail. A prominent therapist told me of the father who insisted on coming to all of his child's events, and was thus jailed for 56 times until the judge finally realized that the wife was making trouble where it didn't belong.

There was a case not long ago where a wife called the police and said that her daughter was bleeding and blamed the husband. The police experts in this field rushed over and discovered that the whole thing was a complete lie. Despite this, the child remained with the mother, and the secular court, the rabbis and the heads of the community continued to make war with the husband to destroy his name. All of these things are real and happen all of the time. And a husband knows it. He knows that his only protection is not giving a GET. Once the wife has the GET, she can completely destroy the husband's relationships with the children, and constantly harass the husband with claims of criminal activity. The husband must spend a fortune to defend himself, and his life becomes a hideous horror.

We now turn now to the halacha, which clearly says that in the vast majority of cases a wife cannot force a GET from her husband, and that it is forbidden to pressure him to do it. We can do so only after we realize just what is happening when we force a husband to divorce. A divorce can mean that his life is destroyed. As he ages, and loses strength, and seeks another mate, he is a cripple, financially, emotionally, and family wise.

All of those who encourage divorce and the destruction of a husband because a wife won't go to therapy to improve the marriage will have to answer for this in another world.

A couple once came to the Chofetz Chaim and he advised them to divorce. Somebody asked him, would it not be better to reconcile? The Chofetz Chaim answered, "According to you, why does the Torah permit divorce if we must always reconcile?" Yes, there are cases where the Torah permits divorce. But the mass divorcing in America today is surely not in the spirit of the Torah. The destruction of children, of husbands, of wives, of families, is so hideous that we cannot understand why so many people encourage it.

I had a case where a woman called the police on her husband and got  him put in jail. I asked her if she wanted a divorce, and she said that she did not want a divorce. I asked her, if so, why did she put her husband in jail? She said that the ladies told her to do it. Now, that sounds stupid. But I told it to a senior therapist and he agreed that in his experience this is not a rare occurence.

This is Torah? HaShem Yerachem.

Yes, sometimes there must be a divorce. But if today, you think you are next, contact me, because there may be another side to this story.








Monday, June 25, 2018

Marriage, Children, Divorce and Solutions


Jewish Outreach Congregation and the Shalom Bayis Beth Din Project
Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn
Jewish Outreach Congregation is heavily involved with problems of family and divorce. How do we try to save families and marriages?
We present here various tips on saving marriages, children and family.

Saving Marriages by Thinking of the Welfare of the Children


We have in the past years, in various media and publications, taught the public the laws of family, marriage and divorce. We emphasize that a coerced GET can usually be invalid, and if the woman remarries with an invalid GET, her children are probably mamzerim.
The gemora says that Beth Din is the Father of Orphans. What greater orphan can there be than a mamzer or a child who if his mother has a kosher GET will be a kosher child. But if his mother has an invalid GET, he will be born a mamzer.
We therefore emphasize that if a husband or wife is upset with their spouse, and want a divorce, they have to consider the children. See gemora Pesachim 87b about maintaining a marriage with a wicked woman because there are children, even if the children may be mamzerim. Also Pesachim 113b if a man has an evil wife but has children he has a problem divorcing her.
The gemora discusses saving children by continuing with a wicked wife. But the same principle can be true with a wife who has a wicked husband. If she gets a divorce and the children suffer, is this right?
I once came to a Beth Din and the wife was wailing piteously, and the husband was calm and relaxed. The Rov explained to me that the husband is a baal teshuva who learns in Kollel and the wife tried very hard to become frum but could not tolerate it. Therefore the husband divorced her, and she took their child. I went to the Gaon Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashev zt”l and asked him if it is permitted to divorce a wife who is not frum and destroy a child because his wife is not frum. He agreed with me that this is a problem, and said, “If she will keep taharas hamishpocho I would permit him to remain with her and not advise him to divorce her and destroy his child.”
Rabbeinu Tam says in his famous teshuva about coerced Gittin that a woman has to remain an Agunah all of her life rather than take a GET that rabbis of approve of but people will assume that there are problems with it, thus creating laaz or suspicions that the child is a mamzer. Yes, a woman must give up her life to protect her child from suspicions that he is a mamzer. But today we have ladies going to rabbis who coerce Gittin and make mamzerim. Beth Din is the “father of orphans” and we must fight this.
We are not saying that nobody with children should be divorced. We are saying that two Torah Jews who are considering divorce should consider their children.
There are many rabbis who encourage women to coerce divorces and this makes mamzerim. People should be concerned about this. Incredibly, in Philadelphia somebody is encouraging a married woman to remarry without a GET (even though the husband wants to give a GET after a visit to Beth Din to clarify custody, etc.. Where is the protest? Where is the concern?

Children from Divorced Families


The Week Magazine published studies that show nine problems that affect children from divorced parents. Such children were over forty percent more likely to smoke. Another study showed that children of divorced parents are more likely to need Ritalin. Also a study showed that children from divorced parents have poor math and social skills relative to children from two-parents homes. Also they suffer anxiety stress and low self-esteem relative to children from two-family homes. It is unlikely that they will catch up to their two-family peers. Children of divorce also develop more health problems than children from stable families. Children of divorce are more likely to drop out of school. A study showed that ten percent of children of divorce turn to crime and that eight percent consider suicide. There is a link between divorced parents and the risk of stroke. Children of divorce are more likely to get divorced and suffer and early death.
Let us imagine X in a difficult marriage. She/he sticks it out and has wonderful and successful children. As she ages she sees children and grandchildren growing up happy and healthy. Eventually, as time goes on, some of the harsh realities in the marriage begin to fade and she ends up with a happy marriage. And if not, the happiness of her children support her.
But let us imagine Y who got a divorce. She is free from the fiend, but her children suffer. Sometimes they become angry at her for ruining their two-parent home, or for hurting the father. Her life will be a struggle. As she gets older, the problems get worse as some children from broken families suffer from divorce themselves and other problems. What kind of life is that?
Does it pay to rush into divorce? Is it right to encourage the right of a wife/man to have a divorce when there are children?

Who is talking loshon hora about the spouse who is being rejected?


Not long ago I was talking to a major Rov in Israel about my Shalom Bayis Beth Din project. Imagine, I said, when we can have neutral people talking to husband and wife about the problems, instead of today, when the parents and the friends are involved. They cannot be neutral. They cannot tolerate the pain of their relative or friend. So they make hate. The Rov agreed vociferously. How many marriages have been ruined by parents and friends. Sad, but true.
Not long ago a dear friend called me up. You know, he said, my wife doesn’t respect me. I was shocked because these people had lived in peace for decades. What had happened all of a sudden? I asked him, “Who has been talking to you?” He replied so and so. I said, “Isn’t so and so just divorced?” Right on. “Get him out of your house.” And there was once again peace.
The New York Time ran an article about an apartment building in Manhattan populated by the up and coming beautiful people. They were couples recently married, successful in business, and rising in the world financially and socially. Their marriages were special.
One day, it seems, one couple got a divorce. Not long afterwards, the neighbor of the divorcee got a divorce. It began, like a contagion, to spread. People tried quarantine, but more and more people divorced, until the building was devastated by divorces. When a bitter person talks about their horrible spouse, the next phase is to talk about your spouse, and after that…

Why does the spouse reject his/her mate? Let us take an actual case. A woman married a fine Talmid Chochom, one with the highest integrity and a very good reputation as a scholar. The wife demanded and got a GET. I was flabbergasted. I called up the father of the girl and asked him if it was true that his daughter rejected such a wonderful husband for reasons that I could not fathom. The father sadly replied that it was true. I asked if I could speak to the daughter. The father agreed. I asked her if it was true what I heard that the reason she demanded a divorce was X, something that utterly amazed me. Not only did she admit it. She was, after the GET, and after she was on the market for a few months when surely some very attractive boys that she at one time could attract would not now be interested in her. Did that make a difference to her? Not at all. She was fuming with fury at her husband because he was not that very uniquely special person that she demanded.
What was my take on this? How did a girl who obviously had very lofty qualities to attract her first husband turn furious with fire because he was not, shall we say, so perfect or so such a reason? Her father did not want this divorce. So who wanted it?
There is a terrible answer to this. Some senior person in her life, a rabbi or teacher in Bais Yaacov, put down the law. Only a husband great and incredible, otherwise, otherwise what? I don’t want to write it. But that is how a young girl was brain washed into destroying her life. Because what she wanted is not only extremely rare, but those people who qualify for that particular level in some areas, are very often not the best husbands.
What would have been so terrible if she had married and stayed married? Okay, the shame and horror of not being perfect is surely something that we cannot tolerate if you go to the school that this girl went to. But was there nobody, a senior rabbi perhaps, who could have saved the situation? Good question. But there is also a good answer, actually a bad answer, but the right answer. The great rabbi who could have taught this girl to stay married was the one who inspired the girl’s teacher. A terrible thought. But, these things do happen.
I once went to a Gadol from the past generation and told him that in Monsey, the holy city of  Torah and Yeshivas, somebody had established a video store, right smack in the middle of town in the business district. I was sure this Gadol, who was a known fire eater, would get up and give one of his great lectures to arouse the community to fight this tooth and nail. But the Gadol did nothing, and completely ignored me. I asked, again and again, and no reaction at all from him. He ignored me as if I didn’t exist. A voice within me said, “He ignores you. But you are Mr. Mechutsaf. Turn it on.” I blurted out, “Rebbe! Hashchoso!” That was what he was waiting for. Suddenly, he woke up, his eyes flashing, his fingers pointing, a real show. And he said with great theatric ability, “A Yeshiva is hashchoso.” I felt that I was falling down, down, down, but a quiet and still voice said to me, “He said that in public. He has to explain it. Just wait.” So, I just stood there, stunned and amazed, waiting for the explanation.
I don’t recall the exact words, nor do I think that the exact words were the purpose of his response. The first thing he said, that I must look at the problems of the Torah community instead of worrying so much about the treifeh world. The treifeh world has a very limited ability in the Torah community, fortunately. But when somebody wants to do a mitzvah, easily the good deed can turn to hashchoso. As was the case with this poor girl who was taught to reject her wonderful husband because he was not as perfect as somebody maintained. Yes, idealism is a terror in the Torah world.
The Gaon Rav Mayer Mintz, a major Talmid of the Gadol Reb Aharon Kotler zt”l, once told me the following story. A Jew had committed a sin that no Jew was ever known to do. People came to a great rabbi and asked his explanation how a Jew can fall so far. He replied, “I don’t know how a Jew can do such a terrible thing. But one thing I do know. He meant leshaim shomayim, he had idealistic motivations. Once somebody hops a ride on the Torah to do an evil thing, where does it end? Yes, where does it end? HaShem Yerachem.

What Does the Torah Say about the problems in the marriage?


A husband battled for years with his wife and refused to give a GET. The community and his children turned against him, but he was adamant and kept fighting. I once spoke to him and began reading some teachings from the Shulchan Aruch. The man jumped up and said, “I need a wife.” He decided then and there to talk to his children about settling things with his wife.
Problems in marriage are solved with advice in practical terms from others. But anyone who listens to advice from another can easily find a reason to reject it, and this happens all the time. When presented, however, with a clear demand from the Torah, a person has a focus and an obligation to listen. Thus, dealing with a broken marriage with Torah rulings can be successful when ordinary suggestions may fail.
What does the Torah say about problems in marriage? First of all, the Torah, as taught in the Talmud, tells us that the greatest sages had serious marital problems. These problems were not the result of insensitivity, chas vishalom. In one case the wife had terrible pain having children and wanted a GET. But Torah scholars can have problems of all kinds in marriage just like regular people. And Torah scholars must confront the pain of such struggles and find in the Torah the strength to continue the proper way. Thus, the second rule in a damaged marriage is to realize that the Torah did not consider you a failure and a ruined person because your marriage was in trouble. This is a common problem, as life is filled with stresses and confusion and frustrations. There are monetary problems and problems with children and many other problems. But the Torah demands that we find within our deepest recesses the strength to maintain the marriage and bring peace. It is surely not easy and not always successful. Sometimes, nothing helps and sometimes there must be a GET.
The Chofetz Chaim once told a couple to get divorced. Somebody asked him, “Does somebody like you advise a GET?” The Chofetz Chaim replied, “And according to you, why is the law of divorce taught in the Torah if we should always make peace?”
A third rule is to keep in mind that the greatest love can easily turn into the greatest hate. We regularly see the most hideous viciousness between people who share a brood of children, people who are from the finest families, people who went to all of the best Torah schools, but who are now sniping and snarling without letup.
Thus, when faced with  a serious marital rupture it is crucial to bring the problems to a senior rabbi or Beth Din rather than to find guidance with relatives and friends, who will pour oil on the flames with their biased understanding of the situation. The people who deal with a divorce should not be predisposed to one side of the fight but should be people who are not biased in any way. Included in this is the need to find somebody who is not biased about if the greatest importance is to help men or to help women. The person who helps must be free of bias.
As I mentioned before, I told a senior Israeli Rov that my Shalom Bayis Beth Din program does away with parents and good friends “advising” the couple how to destroy the other one. The Rov agreed enthusiastically. Of course, he knew much more than I do what happens when parents and friends mix into the fight. How can a parent understand both sides properly when one side is a son or daughter?
Once a marriage was in trouble and somebody immediately intervened and got a very smart rabbi involved who didn’t know husband or wife. The parents were not informed until things were all organized and ready for the worst. Then the parents were told and encouraged to leave the problems to the rabbi, who did a wonderful job of saving the couple from the common wars and hate that destroy children. Now the couple separated without one word from either spouse to the children about the evil of the other spouse. Now the couple separated with nobody ever hearing hate from one spouse about the other one. People were amazed when they saw that there were even kind words exchanged between the separated individuals and the estranged spouse’s family. Everyone knows that when you separate in a marriage the first rule is to make the other one pay, to speak loshon hora, to demonize them. Well, that is not in the Torah. Surely not. But it is done all of the time by people who do learn Torah, but when egged on by relatives and friends, can descend to the worst hate.
Today there is a great tendency to find a rabbi who permits coercing a GET. But such a GET is considered by the great rabbis a coerced and invalid GET. And remarrying with a coerced GET when the Torah forbids coercion can make mamzerim. Thus, we must realize that not all rabbis know the laws of Gittin, and not all rabbis can overcome their prejudices to one side or the other to rule as it says in Shulchan Aruch.
Somebody once called me up and ranked me out for opposing coercing husbands to give a GET that is against the Shulchan Aruch. I listened to all of his ranting but then asked a  simple question: What is your source to disagree with me? My sources are this that and the other source in the Torah. What is your source? I was told some mumbling and no real source. Eventually, that person came around to realize that I had presented the Shulchan Aruch’s opinion and that of the great authorities, and the other side was an invention based upon non-Torah motivations. He enthusiastically backed my program of preventing coerced Gittin.
When you open your mouth without the Shulchan Aruch, there is evil and chaos.
If before you wage war and speak loshon hora in a marital fight you sit down and think what the Torah would say, it could save you a lot of time in Gehenum in this world and the next. But the best thing is to present your problem to somebody who knows what the Torah says about marriage, and has no bias in your case.
The gemora says that “The mizbach weeps at a divorce.”
Why the mizbayach? Because the mizbayach was the altar for burning sacrifices to atone for sin. The mizbayach thus rectified sin. If a sin to G-d can be rectified, why can’t people rectify their own problems with each other to save a family and the children? So the Mizbayach cries when people divorce.
See Rashi Nosho 5:12 about a married woman who went to another man. She sins twice says Rashi, once against HaShem and once against her husband. Because HaShem participates in each marriage so that the woman is considered as one betrothed to Heaven and to her husband. If people would realize this, that the honor of a spouse is the honor of HaShem, would they do what so many people do when the fight comes?
There are those who train women to lie about their husbands and go to court and have the husband destroyed. This happens regularly especially in New York State where the courts have power to force a GET, threatening the husband with jail and loss of money and loss of custody. Such a GET is invalid and the children born from it may be mamzerim. And yet, we hear very little complaints about Torah women going to court and destroying their husbands. The first husband is the evil one, he is demonized. But the woman who goes to court and wails Agunah is the martyr. These are Torah Jews, rabbis and women, and some husbands, who do against the Torah and are going to answer why they did this. And those who do not protest this will also answer to a Higher Court.
Incidentally, the power to force a GET was made in New York State by a Modern Orthodox rabbi, and in our world when people are too busy or too ignorant to protest, such things happen.









Sunday, January 11, 2015

Ignorant Rabbis Talk about Gittin

Rabbi Dovid E. Eidensohn/dddeid@verizon.net/845-578-1917

The following article appeared on my brother’s blog daattorah.blogspot.com.. I have printed here almost the entire article, underlined certain of its words, and put here and there my bold comments in brackets []. My blog www.torahhalacha.blogspot.com contains 61 posts about topics of marriage and divorce and shows how widespread is ignorance about laws of Gittin.

Times of Israel    by Rabbi Levi Brackman
In my fourteen years of practicing as a rabbi I have been asked numerous times to offer counsel and support to couples in failing marriages. Despite the fact that it takes two to tango, often the breakdown of a marriage is more the fault of one party than the other. Yet, no matter how the marriage ends and who is at fault, if the husband does not actively agree to give a Gett (Jewish religious divorce) immediately after the wife requests it he is always in the wrong no matter what.     [ I disagree. Let us assume that a husband has ten children who will be destroyed by a divorce, and let us say that the divorce is being pushed by the mother of the wife, and the husband refuses it. Is he evil? Again, the idea that a woman  can just get up and destroy the lives of the husband and children because of reasons that may be open to debate, has nothing to do with the Torah. To put it a different way. I have semicha from HaGaon Reb Yosef Shalom Elyashev zt”l to be a Rosh Beth Din in Gittin, and I have a very strong semicha from Reb Moshe Feinstein on my seforim in halacha. And I don’t talk the way this article talks. I don’t get up and pontificate about things that are not supported by the Shulchan Aruch. This entire article has nothing to do with the Shulchan Aruch, and the quotes that it makes have nothing to do with the laws of Gittin as we will explain.]
From a religious perspective, the Torah is very protective about the feelings and dignity of women — even more so than that of men. The Talmud warns men to never hurt their spouses feelings and or cause them to weep. It cautions men to be exceedingly careful about their spouses dignity and honor (Baba Metzia, 59a) and to respect and honor them more than they honor themselves (Yevamot, 62b, Maimonides, Ishut, 15:19). These guidelines are based on Biblical sources and have been codified into Jewish law. Furthermore the Talmud tells us that in matters of worldly and household affairs the women’s opinion takes precedence to that of the man’s (Baba Metzia, ibid). [These quotes are about married women and have nothing to do with women who leave the house taking the children.]
Clearly a man who refuses his wife’s request to give a religious bill of divorce for any period of time after it is made clear that from her perspective the marriage is over, is contravening these extremely serious sections of Jewish law in the most grievous manner possible. But refusing to give a Gett is also the mark of a man who lacks basic human empathy and common decency.[...] [Pure baloney. Why does the author of this article not quote the exact place in Shulchan Aruch that talks about a woman who wants out of a marriage? The answer is that he probably doesn’t know where it is, and secondly, if he does know, he also knows that it says just the opposite of what he is saying here. The statement in Shulchan Aruch about a woman who wants out of the marriage is in Even Hoezer 77 paragraphs 2 and 3. There, all of the commentators go along with the words of the Rashbo in a teshuva VII:414 that a wife who wants a divorce “if the husband wants he gives a divorce, and if he does not want he does not give a divorce” meaning, as Rav Elyashev explains, there is no obligation upon a man to give his wife a GET when the wife leaves the marriage. The Gro there #5 says that nobody disagrees.]
Some men hide behind Jewish law as a reason not to give a Gett. They argue that all aspects of the divorce needs to be settled before they are Halachicly (according to Jewish law) allowed to give the Gett. [I believe this is the pesak of HaGaon Reb moshe Feinstein zt”l that everything must be straightened out before the GET. Especially today, when after the GET the wife can go to secular court and get a gag order to destroy the husband, it certainly makes sense to delay the GET until everything is worked out exactly.]
They then proceed to make any settlement as difficult as possible, allowing them to continue their abusive and controlling behavior. Tragically there are some Jewish courts that allow men to behave this way. Happily, however, most of the larger reputable Jewish courts will not allow narcissistic men to use religion as a tool to further abuse and blackmail their wives. The most obnoxious Gett refusers, however, seem to avoid reputable Jewish courts. As pernicious, are men who tell their wife, who is desperate for a divorce, that they “want to work on their marriage” and therefore won’t give a Gett. Again this ploy won’t work at most reputable Jewish courts.
In the final analysis, the refusal to give a Gett by a husband, for any reason, will cause pain to his wife and therefore is not only contrary to the spirit of Judaism it contravenes the letter of the law as well. [What letter of what law?]
[We see here just one of many examples of people who never learned the laws of Gittin, who don’t  have any great authority to quote, but who invent and distort to prove their invalid points. And from these “rabbis” many women will have broken families, invalid divorces, and now, a new thing, women told by “rabbis” to leave their husbands with no GET! And it just gets worse and worse.]

Tuesday, April 7, 2015

Telephone Shiur #3 - How to Save Marriages

We present here various tips on saving marriages, children and family.

Saving Marriages by Thinking of the Welfare of the Children

1.       We have in the past years, in various media and publications, taught the public the laws of family, marriage and divorce. We emphasize that a coerced GET can usually be invalid, and if the woman remarries with an invalid GET, her children are probably mamzerim.
2.     
  The gemora says that Beth Din is the Father of Orphans. What greater orphan can there be than a mamzer or a child who if his mother has a kosher GET will be a kosher child. But if his mother has an invalid GET, he will be born a mamzer.

3.       We therefore emphasize that if a husband or wife is upset with their spouse, and want a divorce, they have to consider the children. See gemora Pesachim 87b about maintaining a marriage with a wicked woman because there are children, even if the children may be mamzerim. Also Pesachim 113b if a man has an evil wife but has children he has a problem divorcing her.

4.       The gemora discusses saving children by continuing with a wicked wife. But the same principle can be true with a wife who has a wicked husband. If she gets a divorce and the children suffer, is this right?
5.       I once came to a Beth Din and the wife was wailing piteously, and the husband was calm and relaxed. The Rov explained to me that the husband is a baal teshuva who learns in Kollel and the wife tried very hard to become frum but could not tolerate it. Therefore the husband divorced her, and she took their child. I went to the Gaon Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashev zt”l and asked him if it is permitted to divorce a wife who is not frum and destroy a child because his wife is not frum. He agreed with me that this is a problem, and said, “If she will keep taharas hamishpocho I would permit him to remain with her and not advise him to divorce her and destroy his child.”

6.       Rabbeinu Tam says in his famous teshuva about coerced Gittin that a woman has to remain an Agunah all of her life rather than take a GET that rabbis of approve of but people will assume that there are problems with it, thus creating laaz or suspicions that the child is a mamzer. Yes, a woman must give up her life to protect her child from suspicions that he is a mamzer. But today we have ladies going to rabbis who coerce Gittin and make mamzerim. Beth Din is the “father of orphans” and we must fight this.

7.       We are not saying that nobody with children should be divorced. We are saying that two Torah Jews who are considering divorce should consider their children.

8.       There are many rabbis who encourage women to coerce divorces and this makes mamzerim. People should be concerned about this. Incredibly, in Philadelphia somebody is encouraging a married woman to remarry without a GET (even though the husband wants to give a GET after a visit to Beth Din to clarify custody, etc.. Where is the protest? Where is the concern?

Children from Divorced Families

The Week Magazine published studies that show nine problems that affect children from divorced parents. Such children were over forty percent more likely to smoke. Another study showed that children of divorced parents are more likely to need Ritalin. Also a study showed that children from divorced parents have poor math and social skills relative to children from two-parents homes. Also they suffer anxiety stress and low self-esteem relative to children from two-family homes. It is unlikely that they will catch up to their two-family peers. Children of divorce also develop more health problems than children from stable families. Children of divorce are more likely to drop out of school. A study showed that ten percent of children of divorce turn to crime and that eight percent consider suicide. There is a link between divorced parents and the risk of stroke. Children of divorce are more likely to get divorced and suffer and early death.

Let us imagine X in a difficult marriage. She/he sticks it out and has wonderful and successful children. As she ages she sees children and grandchildren growing up happy and healthy. Eventually, as time goes on, some of the harsh realities in the marriage begin to fade and she ends up with a happy marriage. And if not, the happiness of her children support her.

But let us imagine Y who got a divorce. She is free from the fiend, but her children suffer. Sometimes they become angry at her for ruining their two-parent home, or for hurting the father. Her life will be a struggle. As she gets older, the problems get worse as some children from broken families suffer from divorce themselves and other problems. What kind of life is that?
Does it pay to rush into divorce? Is it right to encourage the right of a wife/man to have a divorce when there are children?

Number 2: Who is talking loshon hora about the spouse who is being rejected?


Not long ago I was talking to a major Rov in Israel about my Shalom Bayis Beth Din project. Imagine, I said, when we can have neutral people talking to husband and wife about the problems, instead of today, when the parents and the friends are involved. They cannot be neutral. They cannot tolerate the pain of their relative or friend. So they make hate. The Rov agreed vociferously. How many marriages have been ruined by parents and friends. Sad, but true.

Not long ago a dear friend called me up. You know, he said, my wife doesn’t respect me. I was shocked because these people had lived in peace for decades. What had happened all of a sudden? I asked him, “Who has been talking to you?” He replied so and so. I said, “Isn’t so and so just divorced?” Right on. “Get him out of your house.” And there was once again peace.
The New York Time ran an article about an apartment building in Manhattan populated by the up and coming beautiful people. They were couples recently married, successful in business, and rising in the world financially and socially. Their marriages were special.

One day, it seems, one couple got a divorce. Not long afterwards, the neighbor of the divorcee got a divorce. It began, like a contagion, to spread. People tried quarantine, but more and more people divorced, until the building was devastated by divorces. When a bitter person talks about their horrible spouse, the next phase is to talk about your spouse, and after that…

#3 - What does the dissatisfied spouse believe is the proper role and position of the rejected spouse? What is the failure of the rejected spouse?


Why does the spouse reject his/her mate? Let us take an actual case. A woman married a fine Talmid Chochom, one with the highest integrity and a very good reputation as a scholar. The wife demanded and got a GET. I was flabbergasted. I called up the father of the girl and asked him if it was true that his daughter rejected such a wonderful husband for reasons that I could not fathom. The father sadly replied that it was true. I asked if I could speak to the daughter. The father agreed. I asked her if it was true what I heard that the reason she demanded a divorce was X, something that utterly amazed me. Not only did she admit it. She was, after the GET, and after she was on the market for a few months when surely some very attractive boys that she at one time could attract would not now be interested in her. Did that make a difference to her? Not at all. She was fuming with fury at her husband because he was not that very uniquely special person that she demanded.

What was my take on this? How did a girl who obviously had very lofty qualities to attract her first husband turn furious with fire because he was not, shall we say, so perfect or so such a reason? Her father did not want this divorce. So who wanted it?

There is a terrible answer to this. Some senior person in her life, a rabbi or teacher in Bais Yaacov, put down the law. Only a husband great and incredible, otherwise, otherwise what? I don’t want to write it. But that is how a young girl was brain washed into destroying her life. Because what she wanted is not only extremely rare, but those people who qualify for that particular level in some areas, are very often not the best husbands.

What would have been so terrible if she had married and stayed married? Okay, the shame and horror of not being perfect is surely something that we cannot tolerate if you go to the school that this girl went to. But was there nobody, a senior rabbi perhaps, who could have saved the situation? Good question. But there is also a good answer, actually a bad answer, but the right answer. The great rabbi who could have taught this girl to stay married was the one who inspired the girl’s teacher. A terrible thought. But, these things do happen.

I once went to a Gadol from the past generation and told him that in Monsey, the holy city of  Torah and Yeshivas, somebody had established a video store, right smack in the middle of town in the business district. I was sure this Gadol, who was a known fire eater, would get up and give one of his great lectures to arouse the community to fight this tooth and nail. But the Gadol did nothing, and completely ignored me. I asked, again and again, and no reaction at all from him. He ignored me as if I didn’t exist. A voice within me said, “He ignores you. But you are Mr. Mechutsaf. Turn it on.” I blurted out, “Rebbe! Hashchoso!” That was what he was waiting for. Suddenly, he woke up, his eyes flashing, his fingers pointing, a real show. And he said with great theatric ability, “A Yeshiva is hashchoso.” I felt that I was falling down, down, down, but a quiet and still voice said to me, “He said that in public. He has to explain it. Just wait.” So, I just stood there, stunned and amazed, waiting for the explanation.

I don’t recall the exact words, nor do I think that the exact words were the purpose of his response. The first thing he said, that I must look at the problems of the Torah community instead of worrying so much about the treifeh world. The treifeh world has a very limited ability in the Torah community, fortunately. But when somebody wants to do a mitzvah, easily the good deed can turn to hashchoso. As was the case with this poor girl who was taught to reject her wonderful husband because he was not as perfect as somebody maintained. Yes, idealism is a terror in the Torah world.

The Gaon Rav Mayer Mintz, a major Talmid of the Gadol Reb Aharon Kotler zt”l, once told me the following story. A Jew had committed a sin that no Jew was ever known to do. People came to a great rabbi and asked his explanation how a Jew can fall so far. He replied, “I don’t know how a Jew can do such a terrible thing. But one thing I do know. He meant leshaim shomayim, he had idealistic motivations. Once somebody hops a ride on the Torah to do an evil thing, where does it end? Yes, where does it end? HaShem Yerachem.

What Does the Torah Say about the problems in the marriage?


A husband battled for years with his wife and refused to give a GET. The community and his children turned against him, but he was adamant and kept fighting. I once spoke to him and began reading some teachings from the Shulchan Aruch. The man jumped up and said, “I need a wife.” He decided then and there to talk to his children about settling things with his wife.

Problems in marriage are solved with advice in practical terms from others. But anyone who listens to advice from another can easily find a reason to reject it, and this happens all the time. When presented, however, with a clear demand from the Torah, a person has a focus and an obligation to listen. Thus, dealing with a broken marriage with Torah rulings can be successful when ordinary suggestions may fail.

What does the Torah say about problems in marriage? First of all, the Torah, as taught in the Talmud, tells us that the greatest sages had serious marital problems. These problems were not the result of insensitivity, chas vishalom. In one case the wife had terrible pain having children and wanted a GET. But Torah scholars can have problems of all kinds in marriage just like regular people. And Torah scholars must confront the pain of such struggles and find in the Torah the strength to continue the proper way. Thus, the second rule in a damaged marriage is to realize that the Torah did not consider you a failure and a ruined person because your marriage was in trouble. This is a common problem, as life is filled with stresses and confusion and frustrations. There are monetary problems and problems with children and many other problems. But the Torah demands that we find within our deepest recesses the strength to maintain the marriage and bring peace. It is surely not easy and not always successful. Sometimes, nothing helps and sometimes there must be a GET.

The Chofetz Chaim once told a couple to get divorced. Somebody asked him, “Does somebody like you advise a GET?” The Chofetz Chaim replied, “And according to you, why is the law of divorce taught in the Torah if we should always make peace?”

A third rule is to keep in mind that the greatest love can easily turn into the greatest hate. We regularly see the most hideous viciousness between people who share a brood of children, people who are from the finest families, people who went to all of the best Torah schools, but who are now sniping and snarling without letup.

Thus, when faced with  a serious marital rupture it is crucial to bring the problems to a senior rabbi or Beth Din rather than to find guidance with relatives and friends, who will pour oil on the flames with their biased understanding of the situation. The people who deal with a divorce should not be predisposed to one side of the fight but should be people who are not biased in any way. Included in this is the need to find somebody who is not biased about if the greatest importance is to help men or to help women. The person who helps must be free of bias.

As I mentioned before, I told a senior Israeli Rov that my Shalom Bayis Beth Din program does away with parents and good friends “advising” the couple how to destroy the other one. The Rov agreed enthusiastically. Of course, he knew much more than I do what happens when parents and friends mix into the fight. How can a parent understand both sides properly when one side is a son or daughter?

Once a marriage was in trouble and somebody immediately intervened and got a very smart rabbi involved who didn’t know husband or wife. The parents were not informed until things were all organized and ready for the worst. Then the parents were told and encouraged to leave the problems to the rabbi, who did a wonderful job of saving the couple from the common wars and hate that destroy children. Now the couple separated without one word from either spouse to the children about the evil of the other spouse. Now the couple separated with nobody ever hearing hate from one spouse about the other one. People were amazed when they saw that there were even kind words exchanged between the separated individuals and the estranged spouse’s family. Everyone knows that when you separate in a marriage the first rule is to make the other one pay, to speak loshon hora, to demonize them. Well, that is not in the Torah. Surely not. But it is done all of the time by people who do learn Torah, but when egged on by relatives and friends, can descend to the worst hate.

Today there is a great tendency to find a rabbi who permits coercing a GET. But such a GET is considered by the great rabbis a coerced and invalid GET. And remarrying with a coerced GET when the Torah forbids coercion can make mamzerim. Thus, we must realize that not all rabbis know the laws of Gittin, and not all rabbis can overcome their prejudices to one side or the other to rule as it says in Shulchan Aruch.

Somebody once called me up and ranked me out for opposing coercing husbands to give a GET that is against the Shulchan Aruch. I listened to all of his ranting but then asked a  simple question: What is your source to disagree with me? My sources are this that and the other source in the Torah. What is your source? I was told some mumbling and no real source. Eventually, that person came around to realize that I had presented the Shulchan Aruch’s opinion and that of the great authorities, and the other side was an invention based upon non-Torah motivations. He enthusiastically backed my program of preventing coerced Gittin.

When you open your mouth without the Shulchan Aruch, there is evil and chaos.
If before you wage war and speak loshon hora in a marital fight you sit down and think what the Torah would say, it could save you a lot of time in Gehenum in this world and the next. But the best thing is to present your problem to somebody who knows what the Torah says about marriage, and has no bias in your case.

The gemora says that “The mizbach weeps at a divorce.”
Why the mizbayach? Because the mizbayach was the altar for burning sacrifices to atone for sin. The mizbayach thus rectified sin. If a sin to G-d can be rectified, why can’t people rectify their own problems with each other to save a family and the children? So the Mizbayach cries when people divorce.

See Rashi Nosho 5:12 about a marrried woman who went to another man. She sins twice says Rashi, once against HaShem and once against her husband. Because HaShem participates in each marriage so that the woman is considered as one betrothed to Heaven and to her husband. If people would realize this, that the honor of a spouse is the honor of HaShem, would they do what so many people do when the fight comes?

There are those who train women to lie about their husbands and go to court and have the husband destroyed. This happens regularly especially in New York State where the courts have power to force a GET, threatening the husband with jail and loss of money and loss of custody. Such a GET is invalid and the children born from it may be mamzerim. And yet, we hear very little complaints about Torah women going to court and destroying their husbands. The first husband is the evil one, he is demonized. But the woman who goes to court and wails Agunah is the martyr. These are Torah Jews, rabbis and women, and some husbands, who do against the Torah and are going to answer why they did this. And those who do not protest this will also answer to a Higher Court.
Incidentally, the power to force a GET was made in New York State by a Modern Orthodox rabbi, and in our world when people are too busy or too ignorant to protest, such things happen.